Wondering why there isn't a thread for this yet....
It started streaming on Netflix Thursday night at midnight I think or at some point on Friday. Its only 12 episodes long like DD was so it isn't that long but from a couple friends I know who've already watched them all, they say it's not long enough (in a good way because you want even more). I'm only on episode 8 and I already think it's one of the best shows I've seen in a while. It's not just a crime show with lots of fighting, there is a lot of character development, back story and all kinds of other things that make every episode captivating. Tennant as the bad guy is perfect and I honestly think he's one of the best bad guys Marvel has had so far (if not the best). There are so many creepy things that have happened so far but there's also a lot of funny things that have happened.
If you haven't watched it, start watching it. You don't need to know anything about the comic or the characters at all (although it would help). This is just another home run by Netflix/Marvel.
(From what I heard, they are moving forward with an Iron Fist show too!)
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There was discussion about it in the TV show thread, starting at reply #2475. I thought it was good, though I didn't enjoy it quite as much as you did.
The pace and tone is about the same throughout, although things do get quite violent and intense at times. Stretching the plot out to 13 episodes really hurts the show IMO don't read if you haven't seen season 1
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the body count piles up and then the way Jessica offs Kilgrave is extremely anticlimactic. FFS if she would have shot Kilgrave in the head first chance she got dozens of people would have been saved. Sure that is 20/20 stuff but her mission to save Hope got ridiculous and Hope dies anyway.
There is no replay value for me and if I knew going in what I was in for I don't think I would watch 13 episodes. Still the show is entertaining but frustrating at the same time, the more I think about what went down the dumber some of it seems.
I made a wordier post in the TV thread that said essentially the same thing.
Anyone find that the show really picked up after the 3rd episode? Or did it just continue at the same pace/level?
I think it picked up in terms of interesting info on the characters - you get more of Jessica's back story and Kilgrave's back story, but the supporting characters get fleshed out more too. In terms of action - well, there's the occasional action sequence, but I wouldn't say the last 10 episodes hold more action than the first 3, on average.
Just finished the series, I think I liked Daredevil better but this is still quite strong IMO. Tennant absolutely nailed his performance and was one of the best villains in any comic book movie/tv series. I'm quite excited to see what they do next for these series and how they're all going to tie together, nice little dark Avengers group they're assembling
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I think it was an amazing series because it was good without having to have a lot of over the top special effects and it was somewhat real. I know the whole mind control thing isn't real but there are people who have a lot of influence over people and make people do some F'ed up stuff. Tennant was the creepiest villain I've seen in....possibly ever. It wasn't a 10 but it was as good as Dare Devil, just in a different way.
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I'm on episode 7 so far. I like it way more than Daredevil. I had to struggle to get through DD. It was boring, I didn't like the actor, and I just don't like the concept of Daredevil - a blind guy whose super power is he can (sort of) see. It's kinda dumb.
I liked it. Lots of good acting, and I liked the calm pacing. It's pretty far from SHIELD or any of the movie Marvels. Even further down the "everyday superhero" path than Daredevil.
I have a real soft spot for this kind of superhero stuff. It reminds me in some ways of the Spider-Man comics where between saving the city Peter Parker has problems such as pleasing his elderly aunt, making rent, spoiled milk in the refrigerator and his costume smelling like old socks.
I think it's safe to call JJ somewhat a niche series. It sticks to it's own formula and doesn't aim for mass appeal.
I think it would have benefitted from cutting the length of the whole thing by 2-3 episodes, but almost every series ever stretches out too long for my tastes.
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the body count piles up and then the way Jessica offs Kilgrave is extremely anticlimactic. FFS if she would have shot Kilgrave in the head first chance she got dozens of people would have been saved. Sure that is 20/20 stuff but her mission to save Hope got ridiculous and Hope dies anyway.
There is no replay value for me and if I knew going in what I was in for I don't think I would watch 13 episodes. Still the show is entertaining but frustrating at the same time, the more I think about what went down the dumber some of it seems.
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Yeah there were some dumb bits. I liked the anticlimactic killing in itself, even if the final faceoff was otherwise a bit meh.
I hate it when audiences are left off the hook by the villain almost always dying somehow accidentally, by his own fault or in a situation where the hero was somehow forced to do it right then and there "or else". If nothing else the killing is somewhat distanced, indirect. They're left to die, or at the very least pushed to a pit or drawn into hell or another dimension. Anything that will hide either the decision to kill or the actual moment of death, or both.
Jessica on the other hand literally kills Kilgrave with her own hands, with no spectacle or action to distract the audience from the fact that she did exactly that. The fight at that point is over, she had won and he was helpless. It was not (at least theoretetically speaking) the only option and that gives the decision some meaning. Which is nice. I like that kind of storytelling.
Jessica Jones is also just not the kind of hero that gets a moment of righteous and glorious victory. I don't think it would have really fit with the tone of the series.
David Tennant was great as Kilgrave btw, and the whole character was very well written and delivered to the audience. He's understandable enough to not feel ridiculous, and at times you might even feel sort of sorry for how things have gone for him. But the humanizing is not overdone. In the end he's still creepy, weird, unlikeable and clearly beyond redemption.
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The pacing in this show is just bad, I honestly thought that ep 10 was the last episode. They just dragged it on and on. There are also some deep flaws in some of the logic.
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Like when she get's the tar beaten out of her by the lynch mob, how is that possible when she has super strength? she could have just tossed one of them into all of them
I liked the concept and I liked how dark her origin story is, but yea, the show just didn't do it for me.
Jessica's inconsistent powers I really found aggravating and I'm not the type of person to nitpick stuff like that. But when it is used specifically to put a character in peril it gets on my nerves I think they could have done much better here.
This happens in many shows so can't knock Jessica Jones too much but the number of people dying and considered inconsequential and disposable is stupid. At least if the person the hero is attached to gets saved then I feel some satisfaction but Hope ends up dead, I guess to make Jessica's story all the more tragic. As off the rails as Will Simpson got he had it right, he knew Kilgrave had to die and was not waiting around to satisfy some moral agenda, he just wanted to end Kilgrave period.
If Jessica would have done that many people would have been saved but of course that doesn't make 13 episodes of television. Ultimately Krysten Ritter carried the show and made it worth watching.
Just started watching this, 2 episodes in. Holy ####. I cannot believe they had the balls to use Kilgrave as a villain. That is arguably the harshest, most upsetting material Marvel's ever published and that's where they go right away in episode 1?
Makes Daredevil look like children's TV in comparison.
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I actually can't believe a Marvel property gets as dark as this does. I liked it better than Daredevil I think.
Makes me excited to see what they do with the Punisher this time around. They had no problem showing some pretty extreme violence in JJ (that garbage disposal scene, damn), so they should be able to do justice to Frank Castle
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