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Old 12-02-2020, 02:44 PM   #981
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Here's a cool video on arguably the first fast wagon, built in a Porsche factory, and spent it's recent years in Calgary:



Of note, Audi never touched these performance numbers in an Avant again until the B7 RS4, which hopefully Corsi will be driving around the city for us all to see soon enough
B5, is quicker than both of them.
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:48 PM   #982
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Most rust on new cars happen around wheel wells, where different body panels meet, and trunks/hatches/lower doors due to plugged drainage paths.
That’s my 2008 S4 exactly. I want to sell it but the rust is a turnoff. I got a quote to fix it that was 50% of the car’s value. Plus every single person has asked about the timing chain and either bails or lowballs when I tell them it hasn’t been done (but doesn’t rattle either). What’s a guy to do? I need someone that’s happy to do their own work on an otherwise sweet car.
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That’s my 2008 S4 exactly. I want to sell it but the rust is a turnoff. I got a quote to fix it that was 50% of the car’s value. Plus every single person has asked about the timing chain and either bails or lowballs when I tell them it hasn’t been done (but doesn’t rattle either). What’s a guy to do? I need someone that’s happy to do their own work on an otherwise sweet car.
What's a guy to do?

Drive it, drive it until you need to call an Uber at the side of the road to pick you up.
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What's a guy to do?

Drive it, drive it until you need to call an Uber at the side of the road to pick you up.
That's pretty much it, rusty car with an $8000 time bomb. There's basic wrenching and then there's engine out jobs.
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That's pretty much it, rusty car with an $8000 time bomb. There's basic wrenching and then there's engine out jobs.
Yep, engine out job on the TC, halves the value of a $10k car.
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That's pretty much it, rusty car with an $8000 time bomb. There's basic wrenching and then there's engine out jobs.
I am 270,000 km's into my 2011 Durango, I keep waiting for it to explode and die. But it won't it keeps going and going. Outside of regular maintenance I have put maybe $700 in since I got it.

There are other newer shiner vehicles that I can afford, but at the end of the day this costs me nothing and I know it's history.
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What's a guy to do?

Drive it, drive it until you need to call an Uber at the side of the road to pick you up.
Speaking as someone with an S4, this doesn't happen. First, if you're over 100k at this point and it hasn't gone it's probably one of the better ones and you might just never need to worry about it.

Second, and more importantly, it's not a thing where your car suddenly explodes. First you'll get rattle on start that goes away afterwards. After a while, it'll rattle when the car's actually driving, and that's when you're in danger of the thing failing. So you do get some warning when the job needs doing.
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Here's a cool video on arguably the first fast wagon, built in a Porsche factory, and spent it's recent years in Calgary:



Of note, Audi never touched these performance numbers in an Avant again until the B7 RS4, which hopefully Corsi will be driving around the city for us all to see soon enough
The first RS6 and RS4 handily beat the performance numbers of the RS2.
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The RS6 was never available in a manual, though.

The RS2 is one of the coolest cars out there. My S4 has Porsche brake calipers as a sort of semi-tribute to it.
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It'll probably be the first Audi to sell for a quarter mil, I guess excluding the impending 250k price tag for the top end R8 in the next few years. It's caught up to those early Quattros already.
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Speaking as someone with an S4, this doesn't happen. First, if you're over 100k at this point and it hasn't gone it's probably one of the better ones and you might just never need to worry about it.

Second, and more importantly, it's not a thing where your car suddenly explodes. First you'll get rattle on start that goes away afterwards. After a while, it'll rattle when the car's actually driving, and that's when you're in danger of the thing failing. So you do get some warning when the job needs doing.

140K no rattles....
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Yep, same, 142.
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Knock on wood or something you two, don't want to hear of double timing chain fail in the next few weeks.
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The first RS6 and RS4 handily beat the performance numbers of the RS2.
Weren't the official numbers 0-100 in 4.8s for the RS2 and 4.9s for the B5 RS4?

I don't doubt you're right as Audi has had some very conservative official figures that have been easily broken in real world testing before.
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Weren't the official numbers 0-100 in 4.8s for the RS2 and 4.9s for the B5 RS4?

I don't doubt you're right as Audi has had some very conservative official figures that have been easily broken in real world testing before.
RS6 was low 4 and RS4 was mid 4. Whether those are the "official" numbers I honestly don't know. Although 0-60 is just one performance number, HP and Torque both those other early RS models beat the RS2 pretty badly.

The RS2 is super cool no doubt. The B5 RS4 and basically all the RS6's are all things I'd rather own though unless I had a lot of storage space. At least you'd be less scared to drive them.
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Here is a video of the new Rav4 Prime failing the moose test in spectacular fashion. I had to google what a "moose test" was - it's a road test to avoid an upcoming object.

https://www.motor1.com/news/458217/t...oose-test/amp/
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RS6 was low 4 and RS4 was mid 4. Whether those are the "official" numbers I honestly don't know. Although 0-60 is just one performance number, HP and Torque both those other early RS models beat the RS2 pretty badly.

The RS2 is super cool no doubt. The B5 RS4 and basically all the RS6's are all things I'd rather own though unless I had a lot of storage space. At least you'd be less scared to drive them.
Counting the RS6 seems like cheating. That's just an oddball car that doesn't really fall in line with the model structure before or after.

For me, the RS2 is more "special". But having gotten the chance to ride in a B5 S4 with RS4 turbos and a tune, that was something I would love to drive around on a daily basis.

I do think the inline 5 would be a lot less headaches than the 2.7T however.
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Yep, same, 142.
it seems so odd to me that such low Km's are celebrated.

I fully expect a vehicle to last 200,000km, give or take, without any major issues.


Am I alone on this or have I just had great luck with vehicles?
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it seems so odd to me that such low Km's are celebrated.

I fully expect a vehicle to last 200,000km, give or take, without any major issues.


Am I alone on this or have I just had great luck with vehicles?
If you own a B6/B7 S4, you need to adjust your standards. It's a requirement to join the club.

I had rattles from ~80,000km.
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If you own a B6/B7 S4, you need to adjust your standards. It's a requirement to join the club.

I had rattles from ~80,000km.
That club sounds crappy to be honest.
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