2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Most twenty goal guys have a hot streak that skews their numbers

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

Most twenty goal guys have a hot streak that skews their numbers

So do most 50 goal guys....

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

Most twenty goal guys have a hot streak that skews their numbers

Except in Dube's case, it came in the last two weeks of the season, after the Flames clinched. Very similar to Colborne's big year.

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Colborne's team had missed the playoffs, Dube's hadn't. Not so Colborne-eqsue

[Sandman]

People are clamouring for Tre to sign Sonny Milano, who had 14 goals and 34 points in 66 games, but are scared of bringing in Crouse-who had 20 goals and 34 points in 65 games.

Milano is 26, Crouse is 25.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

Colborne's team had missed the playoffs, Dube's hadn't. Not so Colborne-eqsue

In both cases, neither team had much to play for.

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

In both cases, neither team had much to play for.

No, not really. Team completely out of it has nothing to play for vs one still playing good intense hockey. Not fighting for jobs with zero pressure against still keeping the energy and emotion, battling for position going into the playoffs. Dube scored two goals vs Nashville, a game Darryl Sutter described as having "a lot of emotion and energy". While 1000 game veteran Milan Lucic said it was a top five game he's been a part of.

The situations are nothing alike.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I would agree that our top priority is at C.

It's top 6 c or R/W. But top 6 for sure

[Ryan Coke]

I’d actually say that Dubes abysmal first part of the year skewed his numbers down. His play at the end reflected more what he is capable of and has demonstrated in the past. The question is if he can find the consistency to become an every day difference maker, much like Crouse.

[TherapyforGlencross]

I always thought dube was robbed of some grade-A chances, it finally caught up to him in the past portion of the year.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Sandman

People are clamouring for Tre to sign Sonny Milano, who had 14 goals and 34 points in 66 games, but are scared of bringing in Crouse-who had 20 goals and 34 points in 65 games.

Milano is 26, Crouse is 25.

Milano is a free asset though. Crowse presumably would cost something. Personally, I would rather save the assets and use them on something more significant. Trading for Crowse would probably have future opportunity costs.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor

Colborne's team had missed the playoffs, Dube's hadn't. Not so Colborne-eqsue

Colborne was like a gentle giant. Dube at least plays with some intensity.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

I don't mind how the team is set up with so many contracts expiring in 2024...Lindholm you try to extend at the first opportunity; hopefully keep Tanev/Backlund at slightly reduced rates; Toffoli/Zadorov can play out in various ways (extend/trade/expire)...

which leaves Kylington and Hanifin. I think we need to see more of OK to make a determination there, but I think an early extension could be in the cards.

I think they need to make up their mind on Hanifin sooner than later. The best argument for Hanifin is that most D-men in the league are worse than him...but I'm not sure he's that hard to replace (albeit at a downgrade) via UFA - I think I'm okay with a Leddy/Chiarot/Kulak type for $4-5M instead of Hanifin at 6.5-7.5M, assuming he'd even want to extend here.

Hanifin also seems likely to have the best trade value.

Hanifin+
for
Mercer+Ryan Graves (seems like a poor man's Hanifin?)

Not sure what the + would have to be...probably Zary?

I would be over the moon for this. Mercer is an amazing piece, it would probably take at least Zary with Hanifin, but I would do that in a second. Pretty sure Jersey isn’t going to part with Mercer though.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

It's top 6 c or R/W. But top 6 for sure

Has to be a top 6 c. Backlund cannot drive a second line. We have players who can play on the wing in our top 9. But need that top 6 c.

Can Bring in another top 6 rw but unless you upgrade 2C, who drives the play on that line? Not many wingers (who would be available at a reasonable cost) can do that. Available Cs like Toews, Miller, Wheeler, kadri, stastny have done so (Henrique or schmaltz can too but unsure of their availability).

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Has to be a top 6 c. Backlund cannot drive a second line. We have players who can play on the wing in our top 9. But need that top 6 c.

He absolutely can and has for many years.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

He absolutely can and has for many years.

Agree with Scorp. A perfect scenario would be to bring in a young cost controlled asset who has center potential and play him as 3rd line center or 2nd line RW with the intent he would push Backlund down to 3C. Hence why I really like anything around Mercer.

[bax]

I still think Kadri finds his way to the Flames.

Nothing more than a gut feeling, but we’ll see.

[USflamesfan]

Originally Posted by bax

I still think Kadri finds his way to the Flames.

Nothing more than a gut feeling, but we’ll see.

I have thought this as well. The Huberdeau extension really makes that go to a winner reality makes the Flames an attractive option for him

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by bax

I still think Kadri finds his way to the Flames.

Nothing more than a gut feeling, but we’ll see.

Perhaps, interesting nothing concrete with the NYI has been announced.

[Vinny01]

If they are going to add a center to the mix I feel like Monahan is the contract they should try and move. If they are looking to get a winger then Lucic’s money feels like the better option to get rid of. Without Kadri it would seem Monahan has a pretty clear spot as the number 3 C but with Kadri it forced Monahan to the wing or the 4th line.

If they can snag a top line RW then it makes more sense to dump Lucic as this would push others down the lineup.