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View Poll Results: If you could vote on Super Tuesday who would you vote for?
Joe Biden 35 16.43%
Michael Bloomberg 14 6.57%
Pete Buttigieg 18 8.45%
Amy Klobucher 9 4.23%
Bernie Sanders 102 47.89%
Elizabeth Warren 23 10.80%
Other 12 5.63%
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Old 02-07-2020, 06:59 PM   #861
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The world in which he has never held office in Washington like the three I mentioned?
Well if that's all it take to be considered an outsider, then sure. The guy pretty clearly has the backing of the Democratic establishment, and a cursory glance at his work history would show he's anything but an outsider, but you're right, he's never held office in Washington.
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Well if that's all it take to be considered an outsider, then sure. The guy pretty clearly has the backing of the Democratic establishment, and a cursory glance at his work history would show he's anything but an outsider, but you're right, he's never held office in Washington.
Kind of an odd thing to be concerned about, but I guess I get it. I guess I wasn't clear enough with what I was getting at.
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I don't care if he's being propped up by an establishment or if he's super grass roots. In my book, he has the right responses to problems and would give the country a dose of sanity, even in his own party which is perilously close to going off the deep end the way the Republican party has.

Mayor Pete is just fine in my books. We could do so, so much worse than him.

Oh wait, we currently are.

Folks, it honestly doesn't matter who wins the nomination. Any one of these people would be 1000 times better than the current president. That's all that matters. Win this battle and fight the larger war in the future.
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Pete doesn't have any responses to problems. Krystal Ball proffered the perfect word to describe the Pete Buttigieg campaign: "vague aspirational bull####". Just skip to 2:05 here.



It doesn't really matter, as he has essentially zero support from black voters and doesn't have much of a path after New Hampshire.
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If I was an American Democrat, and Elizabeth Warren was the nominee, I'd probably stay at home. Thankfully it seems that Americans are catching on to her.
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Pete doesn't have any responses to problems. Krystal Ball proffered the perfect word to describe the Pete Buttigieg campaign: "vague aspirational bull####".
So he’s essentially the white version of 2008 Obama?
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So he’s essentially the white version of 2008 Obama?
Or the younger more hopeful way less crazy version of Trump?
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Pete doesn't have any responses to problems. Krystal Ball proffered the perfect word to describe the Pete Buttigieg campaign: "vague aspirational bull####". Just skip to 2:05 here.
https://youtu.be/PDBiLT3LASk


It doesn't really matter, as he has essentially zero support from black voters and doesn't have much of a path after New Hampshire.

Vague aspirational bull####, that's what wins elections baby!!!
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It doesn't really matter, as he has essentially zero support from black voters and doesn't have much of a path after New Hampshire.
Well yeah, he's pretty clearly not a friend to the black community if you look into his history as mayor.
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in fairness if you proffer solutions, you can be attacked on the solution not being perfect (as nothing is perfect).

If you're vague and inspirational, then there isn't anything substantial to attack.
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The same can be applied to so many of Bernie's social policies. That's a fantasyland. Where can he expect to get the money for that?
From a minimal percentage of military budget and/or a minimal hit on top earning taxes? Pie in the sky, fantasyland stuff for America, I know.

The saddest part is you were likely genuine in your assertion and even sadder is your response would resonate 10X more with the average American than mine. Is what it is I guess.

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No, I can't. It's all anecdotal.
We moved to US 2.5 years ago.p
Our co-pay is $25 per visit, whether that is to specialist or GP, including immediate care. Emergency care is $100/visit,unless admitted to hospital, then is no charge.
I have seen a derm and an orthopedist, as specialists, in our time here.my wait time to see specialist in both cases was less 48 hours.
My wife had breast cancer in Canada. No complaints with the care for her treatment there, but because she was so young, and we have a daughter, they put her on list for genetic testing for BRCA. She was on that list for 1.5 years in Montreal. Here, upon initial consultation with oncologist, they also recommended genetic testing, and apologized because the delay for testing was 10 days.
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Here's something anecdotal to see how y'all feel U.S. coverage is compared to you guys:

A couple weeks ago my 5 year old needed tubes in his ears and they took out his adenoids. It was an outpatient procedure that did require anesthesia. We were at the hospital for probably 3 hours total.

The bill? Just over $20,000. After insurance, we were left with a $3,000 bill from the hospital. We also received a bill for ~$400 for the anesthesiologist. Not sure if we have seen any other charges, would have to look in the pile.

My kids are under my wife's insurance through her work. I think its Blue Cross Blue Shield.

Luckily we are well enough off to be able to take a hit like that without much problem. But for a lot of people, bills like that are what start the spiral. So the choice is let your kid go through grade school with hearing problems (mine failed his hearing tests) or go broke.
This is an excellent peak into why anecdotal is often useless if not compared to other anecdotal.
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No, I can't. It's all anecdotal.
We moved to US 2.5 years ago.p
Our co-pay is $25 per visit, whether that is to specialist or GP, including immediate care. Emergency care is $100/visit,unless admitted to hospital, then is no charge.
I have seen a derm and an orthopedist, as specialists, in our time here.my wait time to see specialist in both cases was less 48 hours.
My wife had breast cancer in Canada. No complaints with the care for her treatment there, but because she was so young, and we have a daughter, they put her on list for genetic testing for BRCA. She was on that list for 1.5 years in Montreal. Here, upon initial consultation with oncologist, they also recommended genetic testing, and apologized because the delay for testing was 10 days.
But just for posterity (and I could be misremembering) but from previous posts you are pretty well off?
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Well if that's all it take to be considered an outsider, then sure. The guy pretty clearly has the backing of the Democratic establishment, and a cursory glance at his work history would show he's anything but an outsider, but you're right, he's never held office in Washington.
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Kind of an odd thing to be concerned about, but I guess I get it. I guess I wasn't clear enough with what I was getting at.
I don't think it's an odd thing to be concerned about at all. Pete being pushed as an outsider while being an insider could describe his entire campaign and that is incredibly important.
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I don't care if he's being propped up by an establishment or if he's super grass roots. In my book, he has the right responses to problems and would give the country a dose of sanity, even in his own party which is perilously close to going off the deep end the way the Republican party has.

Mayor Pete is just fine in my books. We could do so, so much worse than him.

Oh wait, we currently are.

Folks, it honestly doesn't matter who wins the nomination. Any one of these people would be 1000 times better than the current president. That's all that matters. Win this battle and fight the larger war in the future.
I don't mean to put you on the spot, but what in depth policy has he discussed that has resonated with you? Because he seems to have very shallow answers to everything, so far, and doesn't seem to be onside with the African American community.

Unless you're simply suggesting 'anyone but Trump'. But a tapeworm is a better vote than Trump.

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I don't mean to put you on the spot, but what in depth policy has he discussed that has resonated with you? Because he seems to have very shallow answers to everything, so far, and doesn't seem to be onside with the African American community.

Unless you're simply suggesting 'anyone but Trump'. But a tapeworm is a better vote than Trump.
Anyone but Trump means anyone that can beat Trump, and Sanders can't, he hasn't a hope in hell, it isn't that he will be eviscerated by the right wing media as a Commie, although he will, its that when he starts droning on about healthcare and free college for most of America they hear the waa waa waa of Charlie Browns teacher, he is dull, depressing and rambling.
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Pete doesn't have any responses to problems. Krystal Ball proffered the perfect word to describe the Pete Buttigieg campaign: "vague aspirational bull####". Just skip to 2:05 here.



It doesn't really matter, as he has essentially zero support from black voters and doesn't have much of a path after New Hampshire.

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Pete doesn't have any responses to problems. Krystal Ball proffered the perfect word to describe the Pete Buttigieg campaign: "vague aspirational bull####". Just skip to 2:05 here.



It doesn't really matter, as he has essentially zero support from black voters and doesn't have much of a path after New Hampshire.
What a lame attack. Post the opinion of some shrill harpy who herself provides zero support to assertions and claim moral high ground. Team sports in action. What I would expect from a self-professed member of the “Yang Gang.” Let’s cut the team sports #### and start focusing on policy and how the proposed policies can right the nation and get it back on track.
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Post the opinion of some shrill harpy who herself provides zero support to assertions and claim moral high ground.
Maybe tone down the misogyny a little.
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So, for real, her name is actually Krystal Ball? Man she must have gotten bullied like crazy in high school.
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