Lol.:: I'd take Pirri, can't make Florida or VGK but he would be a good fit for the Flames while we can't find room for Lazar ATM.
Lol, I'd take colborne over Brouwer but Colborne is cut by one of the weakest teams in the league...
Brouwer, albeit overpaid and slightly underperformed last season is still better than Colborne.
Pirri is on a team carousel over the last 3 years and can't hold a spot but he's a better option?
Ugh..
To be fair the guy we wanted to replace with Pirri was Tanner Glass or Freddie Hamilton - so it's not like peope were saying to put him on the first line.
To be fair the guy we wanted to replace with Pirri was Tanner Glass or Freddie Hamilton - so it's not like peope were saying to put him on the first line.
Tanner Glass has earned it and has a track record of being an important checker on some deep teams that took runs at the cup... but Pirri is the better option? Okay..
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I think you are grossly over-stating the facts when you say Brouwer only "slightly underperformed" last year.
Mr. Physical presence was absent all year
I think you grossly over-expected from Brouwer last season. The department where he underperformed was in the physicality department, what more would you expect? 50 pts out of the guy? So yeah, he slightly underperformed.
He's not a pinball like some nor a wrecking ball like others. He's a big body checker who is positiinally sound.
I think you are grossly over-stating the facts when you say Brouwer only "slightly underperformed" last year.
Mr. Physical presence was absent all year
He was off his points average by about 10. Goals about the same, or less.
As for physical play, I had thought he was more of a big guy who could get to the net, as opposed to a Bollig type. In any event, that broken finger affected physical play, too, not that he lived up to expectations. His PMs were halved, if that's an indication.
I'm prepared to see what he can do this year before writing him off.
I was expecting a guy who could play in our top 6, finish his checks and put a glove in the face - and more - to anyone who was taking shots at Gaudreau.
Brouwer vs Anaheim in the regular season and playoffs was akin to Kari Eloranta vs the Oilers
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Pirri had what must be the best Cy Young season ever.
In 2014-2015, he had 22 goals and 2 assists. How is that even possible?
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I am surprised seeing Wiercioch on waivers. Big-body, decent stats for a 3rd pairing defenseman.
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Tanner Glass has earned it and has a track record of being an important checker on some deep teams that took runs at the cup... but Pirri is the better option? Okay..
No - it comes down to different priorities for the 4th line.
The organization wants toughness, grit, and veterans. Hence it being some combo of Glass, Brouwer, Stajan, Hathaway.
I would prefer a more offensive 4th line that can take advantage of other teams 4th lines - while also using sheltered minutes to bring Jankowski in to the lineup.
Hence Pirri-Jankowski-Brouwer - because when it comes down to being better in the offensive zone Pirri > Glass.
To be fair to what another poster just posted it's probably a mute point because Stajan - Jankowski - Brouwer would be even better than with Pirri. The team just has to show comfort with moving Stajan to the wing.
I was expecting a guy who could play in our top 6, finish his checks and put a glove in the face - and more - to anyone who was taking shots at Gaudreau.
Brouwer vs Anaheim in the regular season and playoffs was akin to Kari Eloranta vs the Oilers
But that right there is the issue with your expectations... Brouwer has never played top 6 with the exception of in Stl. during injuries filling in on spot Duty.
I don't know why anyone would think he's a top 6 guy with the Flames..
I am surprised seeing Wiercioch on waivers. Big-body, decent stats for a 3rd pairing defenseman.
Agreed, and really cheap. It probably goes without saying but it'd be much better to have him playing on the third pairing than Matt Bartkowski.
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I was expecting a guy who could play in our top 6, finish his checks and put a glove in the face - and more - to anyone who was taking shots at Gaudreau.
Brouwer vs Anaheim in the regular season and playoffs was akin to Kari Eloranta vs the Oilers
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No - it comes down to different priorities for the 4th line.
The organization wants toughness, grit, and veterans. Hence it being some combo of Glass, Brouwer, Stajan, Hathaway.
I would prefer a more offensive 4th line that can take advantage of other teams 4th lines - while also using sheltered minutes to bring Jankowski in to the lineup.
Hence Pirri-Jankowski-Brouwer - because when it comes down to being better in the offensive zone Pirri > Glass.
To be fair to what another poster just posted it's probably a mute point because Stajan - Jankowski - Brouwer would be even better than with Pirri. The team just has to show comfort with moving Stajan to the wing.
Regardless who's on that 4th line, if the Flames are depending on the 4th line to provide offence, then we're in for a long season.
The Flames need that 4th line to crash and bang or atleast play responsibly in their own end against other teams mid 6 lines, for the most part.
Edit: didn't mean to quote KC again
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Leaning >, but I know that will trigger some of you
Is Pirri better than Glass at what Glass is supposed to do?
Anyway the point was that if you are looking to create an "elite 4th line" by adding Pirri, you could do that without adding him, with parts you have now, which would be the line I described.
Is Pirri better than Glass at what Glass is supposed to do?
Anyway the point was that if you are looking to create an "elite 4th line" by adding Pirri, you could do that without adding him, with parts you have now, which would be the line I described.
Stajan/Janko/Brouwer is also an elite fourth line, as long as Brouwer is playing motivated, trying to engage physical contact every now and then and being strong on the cycle
Leaning >, but I know that will trigger some of you
What makes you think Pirri > Glass for a grinding 4th line role? Have you watched him? Pirri is nothing special, he's failed to win himself a role in multiple organizations now.
Why do people think random guys who can't make other teams are upgrades? Nothing about Pirri's career suggests he's a player we should be interested in. He's not good enough to win a scoring role and his game isn't good for a grinding role.
Some serious grass is greener syndrome going on with you Love. Pirri is not good.
