[News] DeAngelo on waivers for buyout purposes

[cannon7]

If Treliving could redeem himself in my eyes in a single move... and make some CPers heads simultaneously explode.

Good for a laugh, anyway.

[aaronkarlpatton]

Originally Posted by cannon7

If Treliving could redeem himself in my eyes in a single move... and make some CPers heads simultaneously explode.

Good for a laugh, anyway.

I think if he wanted a fresh start and was committed to changing his image I'd accept him with open arms. Who doesn't want/need a fresh start/second chance?

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[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I would rather have good people.

I think this is the problem with the Flames. Too many "gentlemanly hockey player" types and not enough angry, hate-to-lose, will go out there and kill a guy types. The Calgary Flames are currently the hockey equivalent of vanilla ice cream.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by GhostCookie

If your moral compass isn't telling you to take a hard pass on signing a guy who is really just trash person, then hopefully your common sense tells you that you probably don't want infighting and drama through your dressing room. And if you have to take over a players twitter to keep him from embarrassing himself and the organization, it's probably not worth the effort.

If you can get the player cheap enough and Lucic handing him his ass when he gets out of line doesn't work you can press-box him. The player doesn't need to achieve some kind of moral redemption, instead just learn to keep their fringe opinions to themselves.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

I think this is the problem with the Flames. Too many "gentlemanly hockey player" types and not enough angry, hate-to-lose, will go out there and kill a guy types. The Calgary Flames are currently the hockey equivalent of vanilla ice cream.

But this guy isn't one of those guys, he is a tool.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

I think this is the problem with the Flames. Too many "gentlemanly hockey player" types and not enough angry, hate-to-lose, will go out there and kill a guy types. The Calgary Flames are currently the hockey equivalent of vanilla ice cream.

You might have a point, sure wish we had another Ville Nieminen.

[GhostCookie]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

If you can get the player cheap enough and Lucic handing him his ass when he gets out of line doesn't work you can press-box him. The player doesn't need to achieve some kind of moral redemption, instead just learn to keep their fringe opinions to themselves.

I don't disagree with taking a chance on a guy with a past if he can make a big impact and at least mostly not embarrass the organization.

Parade him in front of the cameras talking about how grateful he is for this opportunity at a second chance. The problem is that this guy isn't going to do that. If he behaves at all, the thin veneer holding it together will fade and he will make a fool of himself and the team.

So maybe you press box him, what good is that when he's all over social media slugging it out with your fans? You can take him out of the US, but he wont stop talking US politics, or Q talking points, which means as an organization you are going to need to start constantly making statements about how your organization doesn't feel the same way as him about <targeted group> and that you value all your fans that are members of that group.

Are you going to sign a guy who's last numbers aren't great, to maybe screw up your team chemistry, and definitely aggrieve your fans, and who maybe is going to be cap sitting in the press box with the added cost of full time escorts to keep him from making a fool of himself? I don't see any reason to take that risk.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

you can? I thought there were two windows; one after the Stanley Cup, but before free agency, and a second if a team has an arbitration hearing.

You are right, I was mistakenly thinking of unconditional waivers for contract termination. Or what NJD did with Gusev. This is a normal buyout and the window ends on July 27th based on what I can see on CapFriendly.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by GhostCookie

I don't disagree with taking a chance on a guy with a past if he can make a big impact and at least mostly not embarrass the organization.

Parade him in front of the cameras talking about how grateful he is for this opportunity at a second chance. The problem is that this guy isn't going to do that. If he behaves at all, the thin veneer holding it together will fade and he will make a fool of himself and the team.

So maybe you press box him, what good is that when he's all over social media slugging it out with your fans? You can take him out of the US, but he wont stop talking US politics, or Q talking points, which means as an organization you are going to need to start constantly making statements about how your organization doesn't feel the same way as him about <targeted group> and that you value all your fans that are members of that group.

Are you going to sign a guy who's last numbers aren't great, to maybe screw up your team chemistry, and definitely aggrieve your fans, and who maybe is going to be cap sitting in the press box with the added cost of full time escorts to keep him from making a fool of himself? I don't see any reason to take that risk.

Good post, and by no means am I disagreeing about the risk of taking on a bad character. But to be given as many chances as he was before finally being waived, to me, is telling of the player's abilities. I'd hope that there would be at least a modicum of personal growth after effing up being a young millionaire in the most famous city in the world.

Are there rules about buying out a player mid-season on a 1-year deal?