[Rumour] Flames one of several teams showing interest in Christian Dvorak

[dammage79]

Monahan, Kylington 2021 2nd for Dvorak, OEL 1.5m retained.

I really hate the idea of moving Monahan but this si really something I can see Tree and Maloney Bologna doing.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

last year was Monahan's worst season but he still got as many points as Dvorak and slightly less than Garland but we're adding a first???? is that to compensate for the enormous 2 year age gap between them?

Monahan is not McDavid, but people are behaving like he is Ed Ward.

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

What would we trade for Marner though

Monahan + x for Dvorak+Garland

Garland + x for Marner?

now solve for x

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

Dvorak and OEL are around a 16 mil cap hit.

Monahan and Rasmus are around 10.5.

Gio leaving just opened up some cap flexibility which we can leverage, we provide AZ with some cap relief, pick up a couple decent players and a 1st rounder.

I like it!

I'd only entertain that if it as their 22 first will be a lotto pick. No way AZ includes their first.
No 21 1st for them.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Monahan, Kylington 2021 2nd for Dvorak, OEL 1.5m retained.

I really hate the idea of moving Monahan but this si really something I can see Tree and Maloney Bologna doing.

Only if Lucic is going the other way.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Dvorak is a higher end second line centre who is 25, and getting better each year. Has a decent well rounded game, with no glaring deficiencies. I would speculate that offering Monahan straight across might not be enough to land him.

Lindholm - Dvorak - Backlund - Ruzicka is better than last year. Then spend every ounce of effort on landing a premiere RW, and signing Gaudreau and/or Tkachuk to reasonable deals.

IMO we win Monahan for Dvorak. Maybe 2 years ago monahan was worth more but he’s had 7 surgeries of late. Not sure how that hasn’t hurt his value or raise concerns on him moving forward. Dvorak has 4 years left on a deal for 2 mil less per year. Once again why people don’t value this?

If OEL was in the deal I would think the Flames would get something or get salary retained. But we are dreaming if monahan gets us Dvorak straight up these days

If we can flip monahan for Dvorak and oel was this the deal I would do it if the retained a mil or 1.5. I get OEL has declined but some think getting Hyman for $6 mil for 7 years is good but oel at 6.75 for 7 years is terrible? They are about the same age too and OEL plays in a much worse situation to succeed

[neo45]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

last year was Monahan's worst season but he still got as many points as Dvorak and slightly less than Garland but we're adding a first???? is that to compensate for the enormous 2 year age gap between them?

Garland is a lot more productive 5v5 if you look beyond point totals from shortened seasons. His G/60, P/60 etc are all top notch

Dvorak/Monahan could be a value wash because Dvorak has the superior contract

So is a first rounder for Garland a bad deal? He is entering his prime and is very good at a position of dire need

I’d pull the trigger if Yotes were willing

[Ped]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Monahan, Kylington 2021 2nd for Dvorak, OEL 1.5m retained.

I really hate the idea of moving Monahan but this si really something I can see Tree and Maloney Bologna doing.

Even with 1.5 retained, OEL is not worth the cap hit.

[Toonage]

Arizona/Seattle related: Apparently the team interested in Tyler Pitlick is the Flames (just on Rintoul & Surman right now)

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by blender

Good to see that the positivity is still running strong around here!

Naa. Just don’t wanna be a Leafs fan with my blinders on. Realistically the negatives on the team outweigh the positives this past season. There isn’t a vision for the team at the moment. No high end prospects, the stars have been mediocre, so where is the blind positivity? Treliving has to pull off something big to bring back some light.

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by neo45

So is a first rounder for Garland a bad deal? He is entering his prime and is very good at a position of dire need

I’d pull the trigger if Yotes were willing

so then why not just offer up the first for Garland? would people be fine with that?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Ped

Even with 1.5 retained, OEL is not worth the cap hit.

I'm not saying he is, I'm saying this is a thing the Flames would totally do. I hope they don't but fully expecting something like this. The 2 ex GMs of ARZ manning the helm in CGY bringing on two of their prized picks from years ago.and Maloney was the guy who made that Dvorak puck too.

But if you try to look from the Flames logic, they'd get a 6.75m 30 year old d man who instantly replaces Gio. I dont know, I look at the puzzle board that Is the Flames right now and it makes a ton of sense.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

We seriously don’t want Arizona’s 2021 1st.

Better than acquiring their first pick from 2020.

[Bonded]

Dvorak replaces Backlund and not Monahan. His offence is lacking for a high end #2. Since 2018/2019 he is 94th in scoring for centers and Monahan is 27th. Last season was Dvorak's best season and he was 50th.

[Roof-Daddy]

I guess I don't understand what's so bad about OEL.

He must have terrible advanced stats or something.

He's a good skater, has decent size, hits a ton, is still only 30 which isn't old for a Dman, and usually good for a half a point per game.

His AAV is certainly too high and it goes until he's 36, so the contract isn't pretty but unless there is something I'm missing IMO he would sure help fill the hole just left by Gio's departure.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Arizona/Seattle related: Apparently the team interested in Tyler Pitlick is the Flames (just on Rintoul & Surman right now)

I already know which posters will hate this, but he is what the team needs for the bottom 6.

Hopefully the price isn't too high.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by fleury

Christian Dvorak. Close the off-season and book the parade route because a third liner is what this team was missing.

It is amazing how many people have no clue how talented Dvorak is. He should be a 1B, 2A player on a good team.

[Roof-Daddy]

Monahan, Dube, Kylington, 2nd for Dvorak, OEL, Garland's RFA rights, Raanta's UFA rights

Too much, not enough?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It is amazing how many people have no clue how talented Dvorak is. He should be a 1B, 2A player on a good team.

Gaudreau-Lindholm-Mangiapane
Tkachuk-Dvorak-Dube (or X)
Lucic-Backlund-X (or Dube)
Pelletier-Ruzicka-Ritchie

I can live with.

[868904]

I can see Dvorak and OEL coming here, don't see a 170 lb RW getting the OK from Sutter especially with Gaudreau and Mangiapane already in the top 6.