07-21-2021, 01:08 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Good to see that the positivity is still running strong around here!
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It is getting unbearable.
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07-21-2021, 01:08 PM
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#22
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I just want them to do something... anything.
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07-21-2021, 01:08 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by fleury
Christian Dvorak. Close the off-season and book the parade route because a third liner is what this team was missing.
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Dvorak is a higher end second line centre who is 25, and getting better each year. Has a decent well rounded game, with no glaring deficiencies. I would speculate that offering Monahan straight across might not be enough to land him.
Lindholm - Dvorak - Backlund - Ruzicka is better than last year. Then spend every ounce of effort on landing a premiere RW, and signing Gaudreau and/or Tkachuk to reasonable deals.
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07-21-2021, 01:08 PM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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Something around Monahan for Dvorak kind of makes sense.
Monahan is better offensively, but Dvorak is way better defensively and is also a way better skater. He's also a touch younger, has a smaller AAV and more term.
Lindholm
Dvorak
Backlund
Is actually a fairly decent top 3 C's all with two way ability.
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07-21-2021, 01:09 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
why are canadian teams always interested in the same players
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Limited players without NMC or No trade Clauses. Slim pickings.
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07-21-2021, 01:18 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
It is getting unbearable.
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Can't say this organization hasn't earned the lack of trust.
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07-21-2021, 01:19 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
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Can't see ARI taking Monahan - the reason Dvorak is on the block is that they are trying to shed payroll.
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07-21-2021, 01:19 PM
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#28
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First Line Centre
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Monahan plus Rasmus for Dvorak plus OEL plus 2021 1st
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07-21-2021, 01:20 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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Originally Posted by handgroen
Monahan plus Rasmus for Dvorak plus OEL plus 2021 1st
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We seriously don’t want Arizona’s 2021 1st.
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07-21-2021, 01:22 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Something around Monahan for Dvorak kind of makes sense.
Monahan is better offensively, but Dvorak is way better defensively and is also a way better skater. He's also a touch younger, has a smaller AAV and more term.
Lindholm
Dvorak
Backlund
Is actually a fairly decent top 3 C's all with two way ability.
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Monahan+1st for Dvorak and Garland?
Flames add 2 25 year old top 6 forwards with control (Garland can sign a long term deal and Dvorak is locked up long term). Hate the trade the 1st but prefer that to Dube or another piece
Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk
Mangiapane-Dvorak-Garland
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07-21-2021, 01:22 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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07-21-2021, 01:25 PM
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#32
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Can't see ARI taking Monahan - the reason Dvorak is on the block is that they are trying to shed payroll.
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they have $27M in capspace currently
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07-21-2021, 01:26 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by camm13
they have $27M in capspace currently
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Apparently a 65 million internal budget or something according to Yotes fans on HF.
That is why they are open to moving Garland and Dvorak.
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07-21-2021, 01:26 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Can't see ARI taking Monahan - the reason Dvorak is on the block is that they are trying to shed payroll.
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I would agree, and would bet that OEL would also be a part of any AZI/CGY deal as well.
Flames free up some cap going from Monahan to Dvorak, almost $2 million in fact.
Add that to the Gio contract being off the books now and there is your cap space for OEL.
I know most Flames fan don't want to hear that though.
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07-21-2021, 01:26 PM
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#35
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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Originally Posted by handgroen
Monahan plus Rasmus for Dvorak plus OEL plus 2021 1st
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Dvorak and OEL are around a 16 mil cap hit.
Monahan and Rasmus are around 10.5.
Gio leaving just opened up some cap flexibility which we can leverage, we provide AZ with some cap relief, pick up a couple decent players and a 1st rounder.
I like it!
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07-21-2021, 01:27 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Was hoping for Buddha Qwerty but this'll do.
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07-21-2021, 01:29 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
I would agree, and would bet that OEL would also be a part of any AZI/CGY deal as well.
Flames free up some cap going from Monahan to Dvorak, almost $2 million in fact.
Add that to the Gio contract being off the books now and there is your cap space for OEL.
I know most Flames fan don't want to hear that though.
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I've got it in my head you can get ARZ to retain 1.5m of that yearly 8.25 and still come out ahead.
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07-21-2021, 01:29 PM
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#38
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
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last year was Monahan's worst season but he still got as many points as Dvorak and slightly less than Garland but we're adding a first???? is that to compensate for the enormous 2 year age gap between them?
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07-21-2021, 01:29 PM
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#39
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#1 Goaltender
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We need to stay tf away from OEL’s contract
That thing is a franchise killer
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07-21-2021, 01:30 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Just another player we'll be in on, but will end up somewhere else.
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That's the spirit!
On topic, didn't he play with Tkachuk in the O? Would be interesting to see how they look together again
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