07-17-2021, 08:33 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Looking for a laptop, light, gaming <$2,500
Hey all,
Looking for the holy grail, gaming laptop, light and cheap! Looking for <$2,500 but ideally closer to $1,500
Looking for anything of good value. My games are super light from what I know, but who knows, want to be able to do future games:
- Lepage of Legends
- Diablo 4 when it comes out
- Diablo 2 remastered
I don't really care if screen is huge, I use an external monitor, and when on the go, a large screen isn't something I really need. Nice to have but low priority.
Ethernet jack is a must
Any good recommendations or deals out there?
Looked at Alienware but Dell has G series as well, don't understand why they compete with themselves?
Thanks for any tips
Last edited by Mull; 07-17-2021 at 08:41 PM.
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07-17-2021, 09:36 PM
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07-17-2021, 10:53 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Samonadreau
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I think one of the most important things you should research when buying a gaming laptop is how good it's cooling system is. Why buy a laptop that you have to undervolt severely. When I was looking at laptops I found MSI didn't always get great reviews especially budget models. For example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MSILaptops/...ust_cant_cool/
After lots of research I bought a Lenovo Legion and have been very happy. They run sales every month or two so don't ever pay full price. For example you can get Legion Slim 7 (5800H CPU, 3060 GPU, 1TB ssd, 165Hz display) on sale for $1980 now. If you use Rakuten you can save an extra 12% bringing it down to ~$1740. Pretty good deal all things considered.
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07-17-2021, 11:10 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Originally Posted by Mull
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It's basically the same laptop Samonadreau linked with a worse GPU (but 1TB SSD vs 512GB). I'd go with the one with the 2060 GPU personally.
Alternatively this Legion has similar specs for $1300.
https://www.amazon.ca/Lenovo-1920x10.../dp/B08BB9RWXD
It was the laptop I almost bought but ended up finding a similar model with same 10750H CPU/1660 Ti GPU off of Lenovo's website for 1K during Christmas sales last year.
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07-17-2021, 11:27 PM
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Big contributor to heat on gaming laptops is the gpu. On the MSI's if you can cap the fps from 120 to about 95 it runs fine for temperature. They will run warm though, other than that its a good rig for under 1500.
Otherwise if you dont mind it running hot it should be fine full tilt.
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07-18-2021, 12:21 AM
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I feel like it's going to be on the tough side to buy a light, cheap gaming laptop with an ethernet port. Most of the ones I've seen with said port are either expensive or on the chonky side.
I guess I can't really give any suggestions, I'd say for a light and reasonably cheap-ish machine I'd go with the Ryzen 5900 / RTX 3060 G14 because it's such a good blend of actual laptop (good keyboard, good screen, insane battery life if configured properly) and gaming machine. But no ethernet so no go.
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07-18-2021, 11:39 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CASe333
I think one of the most important things you should research when buying a gaming laptop is how good it's cooling system is. Why buy a laptop that you have to undervolt severely. When I was looking at laptops I found MSI didn't always get great reviews especially budget models. For example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MSILaptops/...ust_cant_cool/
After lots of research I bought a Lenovo Legion and have been very happy. They run sales every month or two so don't ever pay full price. For example you can get Legion Slim 7 (5800H CPU, 3060 GPU, 1TB ssd, 165Hz display) on sale for $1980 now. If you use Rakuten you can save an extra 12% bringing it down to ~$1740. Pretty good deal all things considered. |
Not familiar with Rakuten.. which store on that site is offering it? Can't search by item!
The Legion website says its still coming soon?
https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/coming-.../p/88GMY701561
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07-18-2021, 04:18 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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I was looking for a simple laptop for school.
I hate how many models there are now. And half have major drawbacks. Such a minefield just trying to pick out a machine to perform simple #### with ease, at a good speed, and without a bulky design, for a reasonable price.
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07-18-2021, 04:49 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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So... I know. lots of posts from me.
But basically I think I have figured out the gaming laptop game:
Video card- everything in the $1,400-$2,000 range is GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU. To bump up to the 3070 - a lot more $$ but to go down to the 2060 you don't save much
3070 vs 3060
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/c...42vs4083vs4085
Processor- everyone seems to have i7-10750H at this price range. Dell had the i7-10870H... making this a very good deal... but Aug 30 delivery
https://deals.dell.com/en-ca/productdetail/9rud
Ram - mostly 16 GB
SSD-don't care I learned I never fill with iphone pictures in cloud
Any cheaper laptops with the 3070 video card?
Thank you for all the posts getting me here
Last edited by Mull; 07-18-2021 at 05:42 PM.
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07-18-2021, 04:52 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Mull
Can anyone in layman terms explain the difference between RTX and GTX GPU's?
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The main difference is that the RTX video cards have dedicated hardware to accelerate ray tracing computations and certain matrix operations that are important for machine/deep-learning and neural networks. The latter can be useful for research, but Nvidia's also used it for its DLSS technology that can provide high resolution graphical quality at higher performance with games that support it.
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07-18-2021, 05:00 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by accord1999
The main difference is that the RTX video cards have dedicated hardware to accelerate ray tracing computations and certain matrix operations that are important for machine/deep-learning and neural networks. The latter can be useful for research, but Nvidia's also used it for its DLSS technology that can provide high resolution graphical quality at higher performance with games that support it.
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Sorry, hurt my head reading this.
So RTX better...
How much is it needed for future games? Can't future proof a laptop but want it to work for games in the next 2 years
Edit- NM it seems all cards for laptops I am looking at are RTX so moot point!
Last edited by Mull; 07-18-2021 at 05:14 PM.
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07-18-2021, 05:40 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Mull
Sorry, hurt my head reading this.
So RTX better...
How much is it needed for future games? Can't future proof a laptop but want it to work for games in the next 2 years
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It's probably not too important at this time, there aren't that many games that support ray-tracing and the performance hit with even the flagship cards is high.
However, virtually all of the higher-end video cards come with it now so you'll likely get it by default with a gaming laptop in your range. Ray tracing is also a selling feature for the PS5 and Xbox X so it's likely more and more games will support it, even if it's just a little extra graphical bling.
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07-18-2021, 05:58 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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The SSD, the screen might be a bit better and perhaps it's also the Intel name still carrying a premium, but I would go with the Ryzen in this case.
I think a better Intel choice would be the updated Alienware with the newer and faster 11800H, though still at a considerable premium over AMD.
https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/gami.../naam15r6_s20e
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07-18-2021, 06:31 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by accord1999
The SSD, the screen might be a bit better and perhaps it's also the Intel name still carrying a premium, but I would go with the Ryzen in this case.
I think a better Intel choice would be the updated Alienware with the newer and faster 11800H, though still at a considerable premium over AMD.
https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/gami.../naam15r6_s20e |
y do you like the intel model better? the laptop is more money by a alot and the chip rated the same (worse but within a rounding error)
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare...07vs3856vs4358
Last edited by Mull; 07-18-2021 at 06:41 PM.
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07-18-2021, 06:41 PM
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Franchise Player
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Ryzen just makes sense for laptops right now. The performance vs power consumption aspect of it is reason enough.
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