2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[AC]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1418259930449129472

Hopefully it happens because it sounds like a recipe for a hilariously bad defence, even for Edmonton's standards.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1418361069173673987

He followed that up with:
"For those curious, the current Canucks' top four ranks last in the league at -0.2 projected even strength WAR. This top four would be -2.6."

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Just messin' around:

Trade Tkachuk to STL for Tarasenko ($1,500,000 retained), Kyrou, Neighbors

Sign UFA Annti Raanta - 1 year $2,000,000 AAV
Sign UFA Alec Martinez - 3 years $5,000,000 AAV
Sign UFA Michael Stone - 1 year $850,000 AAV
Sign UFA Tyler Bozak - 1 year $1,500,000 AAV

Sign RFA Jordan Kyrou - 5 years $4,000,000 AAV
Sign RFA Dillon Dube - 1 year $950,000 AAV
Sign RFA Jusso Valimaki - 1 year $950,000 AAV
Sign RFA Connor Mackey - 1 year $850,000 AAV
Sign RFA Glenn Gawdin - 1 year $750,000 AAV
Sign RFA Matthew Phillips - 1 year $750,000 AAV


Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tarasenko
Mangiapane - Monahan - Kyrou
Dillon Dube - Backlund - Pitlick
Milan Lucic - T. Bozak - Ritchie

Gawdin - Phillips

Hanifin - Tanev
Martinez - Andersson
Valimaki - Stone/Kinvall

Mackey

Markstrom
Raanta

$2,675,000 cap space

Bozak might make a good 4th line veteran C option. Still one of the best face off guys in the league at roughly 56% every season.

Why do the Flames need to have four 30+ guys in the bottom-six? I really don't see the need to sign Bozak—Pitlick, Ritchie and Lucic offer more than enough zero-offence veteran-ness.

Put Gawdin or Phillips down there instead.

[ComixZone]

I really hate these Tkachuk to St. Louis proposals. St. Louis just does not have the quality to pull that trade off. Kyrou and and Neighbours just aren't enough to off-set a 30 year old broken down Tarasenko being the main piece. That's undervaluing Tkachuk greatly.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Would Monahan for Buch get it done ?

If I am the rangers I start by asking for Mangiapane + Dube/Valimaki/futures. I think that they want players with lower cap hits/more team control so they fit their contention window as soon as it opens.

[mile]

Originally Posted by Icon

I like all of it except I'd spend Bozak's money on a bigger Dube deal, and let the rookies fight for that last spot. Worst case we sign someone's PTO to a lesser deal for some insurance.

Martinez is exactly who I hope we're after aggressively.

And that STL package is worth the risk in a still trying to win now deal.

Martinez is my preferred guy too, I hope it's either 2yrs/5m AAV or 3yrs/4.5mAAV if he wants the extra year.

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Why do the Flames need to have four 30+ guys in the bottom-six? I really don't see the need to sign Bozak—Pitlick, Ritchie and Lucic offer more than enough zero-offence veteran-ness.

Put Gawdin or Phillips down there instead.

I think Sutter will want an experienced player to be the 4th line center given how much he values the middle of the ice.

I see Ritchie more as the 13th forward. Let the rookies fight for the last RW spot.

Gawdin I can see as a 4th liner. If Phillips makes it it'll be as a top 9 guy

I wouldn’t call Pitlick or Lucic “zero-offense”, Pitlick’s production in each of the last four seasons have been at a 10+ goal, 20+ point pace. Lucic would’ve had 35+ points over a full season last year

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I really hate these Tkachuk to St. Louis proposals. St. Louis just does not have the quality to pull that trade off. Kyrou and and Neighbours just aren't enough to off-set a 30 year old broken down Tarasenko being the main piece. That's undervaluing Tkachuk greatly.

Yeah, I think their most "exciting" piece is their 2023 1st. The Blues could be a lottery team by then. It could be another chance at Bedard or Michkov (and both are likely better than Wright or anyone from this draft).

But if the most exciting piece is a 1st for a middle-of-the-road team, it's probably not worth trading Tkachuk for, barring a huge package.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by mile

Martinez is my preferred guy too, I hope it's either 2yrs/5m AAV or 3yrs/4.5mAAV if he wants the extra year.





I think Sutter will want an experienced player to be the 4th line center given how much he values the middle of the ice.

I see Ritchie more as the 13th forward. Let the rookies fight for the last RW spot.

Gawdin I can see as a 4th liner. If Phillips makes it it'll be as a top 9 guy

I wouldn’t call Pitlick or Lucic “zero-offense”, Pitlick’s production in each of the last four seasons have been at a 10+ goal, 20+ point pace. Lucic would’ve had 35+ points over a full season last year

Agreed and guys always get hurt. Monahan might miss the start of the season already. If guys like Ruzicka or phillips play well when monahan is out we can sit guys like Ritchie. I’d prefer a vet center to play 4th line and have the kids play on his wing and up the lineup with injuries

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Agreed and guys always get hurt. Monahan might miss the start of the season already. If guys like Ruzicka or phillips play well when monahan is out we can sit guys like Ritchie. I’d prefer a vet center to play 4th line and have the kids play on his wing and up the lineup with injuries

Is this a thing? You want to talk about an angry fanbase, if Monny misses time to start the year after the team didn’t sit him down the stretch…

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Is this a thing? You want to talk about an angry fanbase, if Monny misses time to start the year after the team didn’t sit him down the stretch…

Friedman claimed it and it might be bs but if it is true there will be opportunity for someone to step up

[TheIronMaiden]

If the Flames are going to make a lateral move, its going to be underwhelming. That said, the Flames need change so I'm willing to shut up and wait for results.

[Macho0978]

Based on rumours it’s clear the flames aren’t rebuilding. So for me lateral moves are ok with if it improves future cap space. I still believe this team isn’t good enough no matter what next season so trading players for picks and other players with long term contracts or control is what I’d like to see

Hopefully we can improve the prospects over the next couple years

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Falling apart?

Because he got injured?

Ridiculous take.

Every year tiger, every year. The guy has more nuts and bolts in him than Frankenstein.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Every year tiger, every year. The guy has more nuts and bolts in him than Frankenstein.

Its not "every year". Thats just hyperbole.

Again...the guy has missed a total of 27 games in 8 years.

96% attendance rate.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Its not "every year". Thats just hyperbole.

Again...the guy has missed a total of 27 games in 8 years.

96% attendance rate.

So because he chooses to play hurt which makes him useless out there you are arguing that is a good thing?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Its not "every year". Thats just hyperbole.

Again...the guy has missed a total of 27 games in 8 years.

96% attendance rate.

Yet there are people who have a fascination with the likes of Eichel (82% attendance rate) and Patrick (68% attendance rate) as possible replacements, and are still huge fans of guys like Tyler Parsons, ignoring their long list of injuries and health concerns. Monahan is "done" but these other players are at the top of the lists for future Flames. It's very bizarre.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Why do the Flames need to have four 30+ guys in the bottom-six? I really don't see the need to sign Bozak—Pitlick, Ritchie and Lucic offer more than enough zero-offence veteran-ness.

Put Gawdin or Phillips down there instead.

Was there a single bottom 6 forward under the age of 26 in the Stanley cup final? Most were over 30.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Yet there are people who have a fascination with the likes of Eichel (82% attendance rate) and Patrick (68% attendance rate) as possible replacements, and are still huge fans of guys like Tyler Parsons, ignoring their long list of injuries and health concerns. Monahan is "done" but these other players are at the top of the lists for future Flames. It's very bizarre.

Eichel produces when playing hurt or healthy.

Parsons and Patrick have never really produced, healthy or injured.

Monny has produced only when healthy.

The questions surrounding all these players is will they ever be healthy again?


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[Gaudreau is a Ninja]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I really hate these Tkachuk to St. Louis proposals. St. Louis just does not have the quality to pull that trade off. Kyrou and and Neighbours just aren't enough to off-set a 30 year old broken down Tarasenko being the main piece. That's undervaluing Tkachuk greatly.

Man you should listen to St.Louis Radio! I’m a lifetime St.Louis Cardinals fans so I listen to their sports talk radio all the time. Lately it’s Nothing but ridiculously bad trade proposals for Tkachuk. Finally yesterday on their morning show(I forget the radio reporters name) finally told them Calgary/Tre is asking for a HUGE price for Tkachuk, way more then they had been suggesting it would take to get the deal done. It broke their hearts, also because they were already having a bad morning because they were convinced Seattle was going to take Tarasenko instead of Dunn

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

So because he chooses to play hurt which makes him useless out there you are arguing that is a good thing?

Newsflash.....EVERY full time NHLer plays hurt multiple times during their career.

Its a very rough game.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Eichel produces when playing hurt or healthy.

Eichel doesn't play when he's hurt.

Parsons and Patrick have never really produced, healthy or injured.

No ####. Yet still the fixation.

Monny has produced only when healthy.

Completely untrue. We know that Monahan has played through some injuries that has affected him throughout seasons of play, yet he still produces.

The questions surrounding all these players is will they ever be healthy again?

Yup, that's the question. We agree on that. But given a choice between warriors and pussies, I'll take the warrior every time.

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