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Old 07-24-2021, 12:31 AM   #16301
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I am kind of losing hope that a shake up occurs.
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Old 07-24-2021, 04:13 AM   #16302
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I’m not a huge fan of Zibanejad. I don’t think he’s a clear upgrade on any of our current three centres (Lindholm, Monahan, Backlund).

CF%: 45.6
SF%: 44.84
GF%: 52.24
xGF%: 45.24
SCF%: 45.97
HDCF%: 42.44

…I just don’t want Zibanejad. He is not an upgrade on Monahan. Zibanejad can’t keep his head above water at even strength.

Zib is not an upgrade over Monny?

You’ll find if Zib gets traded that that is not true.

His stats last year are bogged down by a very uneven start due to COVID.


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Old 07-24-2021, 05:25 AM   #16303
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And in 3 years he will be UFA, the Flames will have done nothing in that time, and he will probably be gone.
Oh look everybody, it's a seer! Can I get the winning lottery numbers too? Make it all 3 of the years the Flames will have done nothing just for fun.
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Old 07-24-2021, 06:39 AM   #16304
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I am kind of losing hope that a shake up occurs.
well, Gio's gone. That's pretty significant. Even if Seattle made that call for us
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Old 07-24-2021, 07:59 AM   #16305
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Treliving always seems to pull off something no one was expecting
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Old 07-24-2021, 08:01 AM   #16306
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I think Treliving usually does his deals on day 2. So buckle up. Maybe.
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Old 07-24-2021, 08:10 AM   #16307
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Treliving always seems to pull off something no one was expecting
Problem is that everyone is expecting something - anything - to happen, so it might just be he does nothing to keep people guessing.
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Old 07-24-2021, 08:18 AM   #16308
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I think Treliving usually does his deals on day 2. So buckle up. Maybe.
First Hamilton deal was day 1
Elliott was day 1
Hamonic was day 2
Lindholm/Hanifin was day 2
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Old 07-24-2021, 08:32 AM   #16309
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Hockey’s worst kept secrets. Johnny wants to play in Philly, Chucky wants to play in St Louis and Monahans injuries are piling up. It’s no wonder nothing is happening…
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Old 07-24-2021, 09:22 AM   #16310
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Hockey’s worst kept secrets. Johnny wants to play in Philly, Chucky wants to play in St Louis and Monahans injuries are piling up. It’s no wonder nothing is happening…
Or Treliving truly thinks this core can do it.
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Old 07-24-2021, 09:26 AM   #16311
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I am kind of losing hope that a shake up occurs.
I was kind of thinking that as well. But there’s lots of time and I don’t think anyone rumoured to be coming here went somewhere else yesterday.

So far:

- Gio gone
- Pitlick added
- Coleman rumoured to be coming
- Dvorak rumoured in on
- gaudreau extension talks started

Is all I have heard. Guessing we lose Ryan in free agency. I hope we can keep him though. He’s a sneaky effective player.

If all of the above is true I think we need a backup goaltender, bottom 6 left winger and a top 4 defensman at a minimum.

I still have a feeling that one of Tkachuk, Gaudreau or Monahan are leaving. I’d pick Monahan but guessing he’s probably the toughest of the 3 to move.

There are a few veteran goalies and quite a number of free agent defensman available. Left wingers are not as abundant. Maybe they give Pelletier a shot at that spot. I thought he looked really good at the world juniors and I think this is an opening they should look at giving to a prospect to keep $$ down.

Big question is if they work a deal to move one of the top 3 players I mentioned. Will be interesting to see what happens.

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Old 07-24-2021, 10:31 AM   #16312
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Really thought we’d see more action today.

C’mon Brad…
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We are clearly rolling with the same core without replacing a key piece we lost on the backend (Gio). Bringing in a Pitlick or even a Dvorak don’t change the trajectory here. Guessing we will be right back here next year picking 9-15. Embarrassing.
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Old 07-24-2021, 10:35 AM   #16314
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It’s been apparent a shake up of the core is needed - and not just the simple subtraction of Gio. The chemistry of this group just isn’t quite right (whole is lesser than the sum of the parts) and something needs to be done - either a tear down or a couple hockey trades to change the mix.

Do something! Or are the owners content to be a perpetual bubble team? Seems so.
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We are clearly rolling with the same core without replacing a key piece we lost on the backend (Gio). Bringing in a Pitlick or even a Dvorak don’t change the trajectory here. Guessing we will be right back here next year picking 9-15. Embarrassing.
Maybe you should pick a different and less embarrassing team.
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Maybe you should pick a different and less embarrassing team.
Likely should I suppose
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Old 07-24-2021, 10:44 AM   #16317
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Maybe you should pick a different and less embarrassing team.
Nothing wrong with being lifetime fans yet calling out the generally agreed upon stupidity of one of the more poorly run orgs in the league.
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Old 07-24-2021, 10:46 AM   #16318
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The shakeup is Sutter as coach.

Same group will be here next year, get used to it.

They will make the playoffs and hopefully not suck in them.
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Old 07-24-2021, 10:46 AM   #16319
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Or Treliving truly thinks this core can do it.

You can bet that's what he'll say if he can't make any deals.
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Old 07-24-2021, 10:47 AM   #16320
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I am kind of losing hope that a shake up occurs.
There's still time but it's looking increasingly likely that Treliving is going to give the core another chance which is one of the craziest things I have seen with this franchise given it's nearly guaranteed to fail. I'm beginning to wonder if he's become increasingly gun shy since getting burned on the Hamonic trade. It seems like he's not been able to get any major deals done since then.
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