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Old 04-27-2024, 04:37 PM   #1
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Why are announcers addicted to this phrase?

They use it to mean someone is open. It has nothing to do with time, since they never say it when time is running out. If the defender is closing on someone, say that.

“Time and space”. There was time, but there was just no space! There was space, time just ran out!

Heard it six times so far in the second period(!) of the Tampa Bay/Florida game. The new “literally” of phrases.
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Old 04-27-2024, 04:40 PM   #2
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Creating time and space would be drawing opponents closer to you to create space to move elsewhere and more time to use that space.

You’d be creating time and space for your team mates.
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Old 04-27-2024, 04:45 PM   #3
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Old 04-27-2024, 04:45 PM   #4
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Pretty sure they mean time, as in the amount of time to make a play, and space, the amount of space to make a play.

Players usually run out of time and space concurrently, but sometimes they only run out of time or space. It’s not that strange.
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That last attempt by Reinhart is an example of having space to get a shot, but not having enough time to get a quality shot off.
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Old 04-27-2024, 04:48 PM   #6
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As a Flames fan you should be acutely aware of the team’s propensity to give opposing shooters time and space in the high slot, which allows them to place their shots under less than customary pressure
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Time is oh so valuable
Space is something that’s wasted by some posters who make 7 or 8 hundred posts per day (the last point was not directed at anyone in this thread…… so far)
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Time is oh so valuable
Space is something that’s wasted by some posters who make 7 or 8 hundred posts per day (the last point was not directed at anyone in this thread…… so far)
OK, but both time and space is wasted in that scenario.

You could even say it's compounded, because space is wasted on every screen that views it... and the time it took to write it, plus the time to read it times the number of people who read it... and then there's the time and space wasted by the response to it times the number of responses... again, factoring in the number or people reading those responses... and then responses to those responses... and then re-explaining all the nonsense responses to the people who don't know that previous pages exist in a thread... times the number of people who chose to repeat that explaination with their own twist... and then the responses that generates... and then the people who try to get things on track times the number of responses to those responses...

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As a Flames fan you should be acutely aware of the team’s propensity to give opposing shooters time and space in the high slot, which allows them to place their shots under less than customary pressure
Space, sure. How can you have space and no time unless the clock is expiring? Just an irritating phrase to me.
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OK, but both time and space is wasted in that scenario. You could even say it's compounded, because space is wasted on every screen that views it... and the time it took to write it, plus the time to read it times the number of people who read it... and then there's the time and space wasted by the response to it times the number of responses... again, factoring in the number or people reading those responses...
Fantasticly stated!

Some in these forums live to be banned and restart again (hundreds of meaningless posts per day) till they become “franchise player” again
When
In reality
They are never more than a “number 1 goat ender” in any realistic situation.
Effectively wasting time and taking oxygen (space) from everyone else
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Space, sure. How can you have space and no time unless the clock is expiring? Just an irritating phrase to me.
I can't tell if we're being trolled, but I'll humour you.

Space is in every direction. Time is relative.

You can have enough space between you and the goalie to get a high % shot off, but not have enough time to do it because there's a guy on you trying to get the puck away... so you either take a low % shot or give up the puck. You had space but no time.

You could have the puck behind the net with a D on each side of the cage preventing you from putting it out front, so you have to send it along the boards. You had lots of time, but no space to make the play you wanted.

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Fantasticly stated!

Some in these forums live to be banned and restart again (hundreds of meaningless posts per day) till they become “franchise player” again
When
In reality
They are never more than a “number 1 goat ender” in any realistic situation.
Effectively wasting time and taking oxygen (space) from everyone else
I had no idea this proffession existed, and I take serious offence to it.
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I had no idea this proffession existed, and I take serious offence to it.
Oh no
Sorry
No offence intended
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I can't tell if we're being trolled, but I'll humour you.

Space is in every direction. Time is relative.

You can have enough space between you and the goalie to get a high % shot off, but not have enough time to do it because there's a guy on you trying to get the puck away... so you either take a low % shot or give up the puck.

You had space but no time.

You could have the puck behind the net with a D on each side of the cage preventing you from putting it out front, so you have to send it along the boards.

You had lots of time, but no space to make the play you wanted.
So if there’s someone coming to you to pressure you, you lost the space.

In basketball it’s called closing out, in football it’s called pressuring the QB. Not taking away their “time and space”, lol.
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Space, sure. How can you have space and no time unless the clock is expiring? Just an irritating phrase to me.
That’s why the phrase is exactly “time and space”. I think you need to think about this a bit longer.
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Pretty sure they mean time, as in the amount of time to make a play, and space, the amount of space to make a play.

Players usually run out of time and space concurrently, but sometimes they only run out of time or space. It’s not that strange.
When you actually play hockey, you realize how important both time and space are. The opponents bearing down on you is what stops you from making plays. True hockey talent (offensively anyways) is the ability to utilize and create time and space.
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When you actually play hockey, you realize how important both time and space are. The opponents bearing down on you is what stops you from making plays. True hockey talent (offensively anyways) is the ability to utilize and create time and space.
You can use all the moves in the world to create space. You can’t create time.
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What about space-time?
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It is a little redundant. If you’re open you have time and space. If someone is right on top of you, you have neither.

It does kind of seem to be an overused expression.
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Time and space is different for every level of player. 1 would need 15 minutes to make a play that some do in 5 seconds. Time and space.
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