Humboldt Broncos tragedy.

[lazypucker]

Really, his biggest mistake was to hit a bus full of hockey players in Canada. He won't be in as much scrutiny if he, per se, hit a bus full of foreign tourists.

The guy is harmless, and I think he will be a good asset to society for Canada if he can stay and be put in some sort of a safe-driving spokesman and industry educator...

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by GGG

His crime was falsifying log books and driving more hours than allowed.

He was an impaired driver who blew a stop sign.

Yeah, he had 70 violations in 11 days. I have a lot of questions about that, like how much of a role the company and industry as a whole played into that. I am sure it is complicated (or maybe not, I don't know).

[Amethyst]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Yeah, he had 70 violations in 11 days. I have a lot of questions about that, like how much of a role the company and industry as a whole played into that. I am sure it is complicated (or maybe not, I don't know).

For a new driver to have that many violations, the employer and the industry are a major part of the problem.

I don't see any benefit to deporting him.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Yeah, he had 70 violations in 11 days. I have a lot of questions about that, like how much of a role the company and industry as a whole played into that. I am sure it is complicated (or maybe not, I don't know).

Pre Humboldt the province didn't do the testing for class 1 licensing, this was mostly because immigrants who wanted to drive a truck cited language barriers in trying to get licensed, problem is a lot of driving schools popped up and didn't give proper training and in some cases very little training at all, most would have someone train on an automatic tractor but let them figure it out when they got behind an 18 speed and more than one of these "schools" were shut down for basically just selling a class 1.

I believe Alberta and Saskatchewan now do the final testing but the rest of Canada is still the same.

My old neighbor is a DOT officer and claims 50% of truck drivers wouldn't pass a real test and he would like a graduated license approach.

Something like this:

year 1 - Class 3 up to 5 tonnes
year 2 or after 20k logged - Class 1 single trailer
year 3 or after 100k logged - Class 1 combo (super B)
year 4 or after 200k logged- Class 1 LCV (2 full trailers)

I also don't see the point in deporting him, but please don't let him drive a heavy truck again.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by lazypucker

Really, his biggest mistake was to hit a bus full of hockey players in Canada. He won't be in as much scrutiny if he, per se, hit a bus full of foreign tourists.

The guy is harmless, and I think he will be a good asset to society for Canada if he can stay and be put in some sort of a safe-driving spokesman and industry educator...

In that scenario he would have been deported without anyone hearing about it.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Amethyst

For a new driver to have that many violations, the employer and the industry are a major part of the problem.

I don't see any benefit to deporting him.

My thought process as well. His company is culpable, and wouldn't surprise me if there was some thinly veiled pressure to falsify records. Plus, we all know every driver did it before e-logs.