Inside Tracker and Similar - Wellness Plans

[VladtheImpaler]

I assume you guys have come across services like this, which look at your DNA and blood tests and give you a "complete" health picture. I know there are medical professionals that specialize in taking all that info and turning it into a "wellness plan", involving supplements, meds (if necessary), exercise, nutrition, etc. If you listen to/watch Rogan, you know he is into this big time.

I am curious if anyone has actually done this and can comment on the experience, and I am particularly interested to know if there is anyone in Calgary doing this.

[troutman]

Most people do not need supplements, so I would be skeptical of any plan that recommends them.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by troutman

Most people do not need supplements, so I would be skeptical of any plan that recommends them.

Yeah, for sure - I just want to find someone that can talk about "everything".

[MoneyGuy]

I’ve never looked at this but have wondered about those heart clinics, which provide a assessment of your risk of heart disease. I’m thinking that your doctor can provide a similar assessment without the clinic’s fee.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I’ve never looked at this but have wondered about those heart clinics, which provide a assessment of your risk of heart disease. I’m thinking that your doctor can provide a similar assessment without the clinic’s fee.

Yeah, those are scams I think.

[Fuzz]

I paid $300 for DNA-based fitness advice and all I got was junk science

https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/20/...results-dnafit


I'd also be doing a lot of fine print reading to any private company you give your DNA to.

[GrrlGoalie33]

Check out True North Naturopathic Therapy. I haven't used her services, but know the founder. Her focus is on functional nutrition. https://www.tnnt.ca/

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I’ve never looked at this but have wondered about those heart clinics, which provide a assessment of your risk of heart disease. I’m thinking that your doctor can provide a similar assessment without the clinic’s fee.

It seems to me that the older one gets, the more important it becomes to establish a close relationship with your GP. He is able to track your health, and make referrals to a specialist if required. He is also the person who is going to help you if you ever need his input for insurance, disability claims, or even decide if you are capable of driving.

I think things like having an annual physical, making your GP aware of your family heath vulnerabilities like diabetes, heart disease, cancer, etc., listening to your body and seeking help sooner rather than later, are important.

[MoneyGuy]

^Agree totally.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

I assume you guys have come across services like this, which look at your DNA and blood tests and give you a "complete" health picture. I know there are medical professionals that specialize in taking all that info and turning it into a "wellness plan", involving supplements, meds (if necessary), exercise, nutrition, etc. If you listen to/watch Rogan, you know he is into this big time.

I am curious if anyone has actually done this and can comment on the experience, and I am particularly interested to know if there is anyone in Calgary doing this.

I stopped reading at Rogan.

[#-3]

Here's the thing about nutrition and supplementation,

Generally our diets are so diverse and whole, compared to what anyone of our evolutionary forbearers could have evolved to have expected. So supplements are usually superfluous, and our bodies are very efficient a purging what they don't need. The vast majority of supplements basically become really expensive pee, if not the precursors to something worse like kidney stones.

As far as nutrition goes, really the best advice you can get is eat a little bit of almost everything, I've heard it summed up as "Eat food, not too much, mostly vegetables." I can't remember from where. The primary problem with this being it's a little too short to sell and book, and a little too nuanced/complicated to effectively coach a couple hours/per month. So everyone is looking for the secret sauce, and it turns out it's just no-name brand ketchup, a lost liter so cheap you can't make any money selling it.

These are billion dollar industries that offer little in tangible benefits, beyond the good feelings created by doing something (those good feelings aren't nothing, but they also aren't what you paid for).

I saw naturopaths mentioned on this thread, for those interested, I'd prefer not to get too into it, but I'd encourage you to look up Britt Hermes. She has a degree in naturopathy, and goes pretty deep into detail about what their training and practices entail. As an easy rule I would be very cautious of medical practices that make one of two claims. They have some special treatment that only they have access to, and other areas of medicine do not accept. Or they rely on a single treatment/practice that would critically endanger their profession, should it be proven ineffective.

With genetic testing, I am less aware of the positives and negatives. But for now, my default position would be the our genome it too complex to pickup informative signals from almost everything.

All of that said, these are pretty wide ranging generalizations. There are people who really do need supplements to have optimal health, and there are great diet coaches. You might experience or run into these successes, but that doesn't mean the same thing will work for everyone, and if it were me before dumping money into this industry, I would look to follow the advice in bold.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by #-3

Here's the thing about nutrition and supplementation,

Generally our diets are so diverse and whole, compared to what anyone of our evolutionary forbearers could have evolved to have expected. So supplements are usually superfluous, and our bodies are very efficient a purging what they don't need. The vast majority of supplements basically become really expensive pee, if not the precursors to something worse like kidney stones.

As far as nutrition goes, really the best advice you can get is eat a little bit of almost everything, I've heard it summed up as "Eat food, not too much, mostly vegetables." I can't remember from where. The primary problem with this being it's a little too short to sell and book, and a little too nuanced/complicated to effectively coach a couple hours/per month. So everyone is looking for the secret sauce, and it turns out it's just no-name brand ketchup, a lost liter so cheap you can't make any money selling it.

These are billion dollar industries that offer little in tangible benefits, beyond the good feelings created by doing something (those good feelings aren't nothing, but they also aren't what you paid for).

I saw naturopaths mentioned on this thread, for those interested, I'd prefer not to get too into it, but I'd encourage you to look up Britt Hermes. She has a degree in naturopathy, and goes pretty deep into detail about what their training and practices entail. As an easy rule I would be very cautious of medical practices that make one of two claims. They have some special treatment that only they have access to, and other areas of medicine do not accept. Or they rely on a single treatment/practice that would critically endanger their profession, should it be proven ineffective.

With genetic testing, I am less aware of the positives and negatives. But for now, my default position would be the our genome it too complex to pickup informative signals from almost everything.

All of that said, these are pretty wide ranging generalizations. There are people who really do need supplements to have optimal health, and there are great diet coaches. You might experience or run into these successes, but that doesn't mean the same thing will work for everyone, and if it were me before dumping money into this industry, I would look to follow the advice in bold.

Thanks. Well said. I basically follow the bold, aside from my love of wine and salted cured meats, but I am trying to curb that. What made me curious is that I have poor "scores" in certain markers (1) and (2) stuff like David Sinclair's aging research and regimen. I also wonder if I exercise too much or too "wrong". Hence, I would be interested in finding someone who can deal with all the aspects of this...

[#-3]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Thanks. Well said. I basically follow the bold, aside from my love of wine and salted cured meats, but I am trying to curb that. What made me curious is that I have poor "scores" in certain markers (1) and (2) stuff like David Sinclair's aging research and regimen. I also wonder if I exercise too much or too "wrong". Hence, I would be interested in finding someone who can deal with all the aspects of this...

Like I said, I would put the burden on the genetic testing to prove they are picking up a real signal, at this point I would assume they have made a big leap on a limited data set and weak correlations.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but I just really doubt we have the depth of understanding about genetics to say this marker means this, with any confidence.

Not really much to go on there, but realistically it's probably where we are at.

For anti-aging, from everything I've heard, I would be more interested the impacts of air pollution & chronic stress. I think they are probably the best opportunities for big improvements in individual life spans. If you have exhaust problems with your car, live near a freeway, or struggle to deal with stress addressing those will most likely beat out marginal diet/exercise improvements from a cost-benefit prospective.