06-21-2021, 05:22 PM
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#14041
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Parayko and Tarasenko would be absurd. Why would Calgary trade its 23-year-old star for two 29-year-olds?
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Because 29 is NOT over the hill for most players, Tarasenko has size, speed and a blistering shot we could use and Sutter and Treliving are either all in or all out, and we know Sutter himself is all in and doesn't care about 3-4 years from now.
Mugs game anyway though, Tarasenko has a full No Trade Clause. St Louis would really have to want him gone to convince him to drop it to go to Calgary. This is the home of the Swedish Mafia not the Russian Mob.
He has been injured LTIR a couple of times now but he did play 5 straight seasons prior to that. So's Eichel, so's Mathews, so's Stamkos and of course Kucherov so lots of star players get banged up.
I get why we would want a bona fide rifle like shooter and while Laine's younger he's also a terrible 2 way player from all accounts.
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06-21-2021, 05:23 PM
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#14042
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Franchise Player
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Gio's on the road nearly half the time during the season, so I doubt they'd relocate the family if he ended up in SEA. They can come visit him for a few home stretches, he can come home for Xmas and ASB, plus 2+ games in CGY.
No guarantee SEA takes Gio even if he's exposed. The impression is that they want to draft the min. possible salary and then extort more value in trades.
They need to draft 48.9M in AAV. Assuming 20 guys average around 1M, that means they need to draft a surplus of ~$29M.
Possibilities
Goalies (Quick, Allen, Holtby, Khudobin, etc.)
Voracek/JVR...
TBL: McDonagh/Cernak, or I wouldn't be surprised if they offered a Gourde+T Johnson package
COL: need to do something about their 4 D...you can probably pencil $4M+ from them (maybe they go 4-4 and expose Kadri or Donskoi)
MIN: Dumba/Hartman/Rask/Talbot - probably some $$$ one way or the other
MTL: Chiarot/Edmundson...maybe even Byron (or Jake Allen)
NAS: They might go 4-4 and maybe even expose a Duchene or Johansen. (Kunin, Arvidsson, Forsberg...)
PIT: McCann/Rust/Matheson
Other $$$$ D:
Risto/C Miller
Gio
Skjei/Gardiner or Bean (pending RFA...maybe CAR gets creative to try to keep him)
Zadorov/De Haan, though ELC Riley Stillman may be attractive
I suppose my point is that SEA won't have much trouble drafting that surplus $29M, especially with defensemen (lots of LD at that). It's hard to play out the scenario without knowing the actual protection lists, or knowing how coveted certain prospects might be on these teams that have established $$$ players.
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06-21-2021, 05:27 PM
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#14043
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Because Calgary, for some inexplicable reason, believes they are a move or two away from contention, as they do every year despite evidence to the contrary.
Honestly, I don’t know why the Blues even consider this deal for a second. Tarasenko alone has more value than Chucky.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
Based on actual tangible connections or based on a ‘gut’ feeling? Guarantee is a big statement even with ‘pretty much’ preceding it.
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Gut feel. It will never happen.
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06-21-2021, 05:27 PM
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#14044
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Geez this thread is very depressing. If any of those trades happen we would have the dumbest GM in the league. BT making Benning look good if this #### happens
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06-21-2021, 05:34 PM
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#14045
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Tarasenko alone has more value than Chucky.
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That's a preposterous hypothesis.
Tarasenko has a full NTC, so this is all pretty moo.
I wonder about something like: Tarasenko+Schenn for Kuznetsov+????
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06-21-2021, 05:36 PM
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#14046
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powderjunkie
That's a preposterous hypothesis.
Tarasenko has a full NTC, so this is all pretty moo.
I wonder about something like: Tarasenko+Schenn for Kuznetsov+????
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Did Steve tell him that per chance? Ugh, Steve.
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06-21-2021, 05:41 PM
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#14047
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Because Calgary, for some inexplicable reason, believes they are a move or two away from contention, as they do every year despite evidence to the contrary.
Honestly, I don’t know why the Blues even consider this deal for a second. Tarasenko alone has more value than Chucky.
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Yeah those 7 goals and 24 points over the last 2 seasons are damn impressive.
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06-21-2021, 05:42 PM
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#14048
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Uncle Chester
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powderjunkie
That's a preposterous hypothesis.
Tarasenko has a full NTC, so this is all pretty moo.
I wonder about something like: Tarasenko+Schenn for Kuznetsov+????
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In the same radio segment, O'Brien states that he's heard Tarasenko wants out.
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06-21-2021, 05:52 PM
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#14049
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
Geez this thread is very depressing. If any of those trades happen we would have the dumbest GM in the league. BT making Benning look good if this #### happens
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You wouldn't swap rosters with Vancouver right now?
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06-21-2021, 05:56 PM
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#14050
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Tarasenko alone has more value than Chucky.
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Lmao, no he doesn't.
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06-21-2021, 05:57 PM
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#14051
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Because Calgary, for some inexplicable reason, believes they are a move or two away from contention, as they do every year despite evidence to the contrary.
Honestly, I don’t know why the Blues even consider this deal for a second. Tarasenko alone has more value than Chucky.
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That's just not true at all. Tarasenko has dealt with a ton of injuries and is two years away from UFA.
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06-21-2021, 06:04 PM
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#14052
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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This is a young man’s game. Youth=value. In most cases, the older the player gets, the more his value decreases. If we were to trade Chucky, I would hope we get somebody young back.
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06-21-2021, 06:14 PM
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#14053
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Franchise Player
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So people want to dump Monahan cause he is broken down and worthless but think Tarensenko who has had three shoulder injuries is worth more than Tkachuk. Either people are completely beaten down as Flames fan which I understand or are straight trolling.
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06-21-2021, 06:27 PM
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#14054
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Franchise Player
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Jesus this Tkachuk rumour better not be true. We need more players that want to go to war every game, not less. Tkachuks game did a 180 for the worse right after that players meeting. The captain should have put an end to that discussion the second it was brought up that Tkachuk should take it easy. I’d have no problem with the gm trading any player that thought Tkachuk needs to not got to war every night. I don’t know how but Calgary has had a country club vibe ever since the cup final run.
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06-21-2021, 06:31 PM
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#14055
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
You wouldn't swap rosters with Vancouver right now?
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thats not really apples to apples though.
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06-21-2021, 06:31 PM
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#14056
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien
Did Steve tell him that per chance? Ugh, Steve.
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Bloody Steve.
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06-21-2021, 06:38 PM
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#14057
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I think the day Tkachuk signed that contract we should have all known very well he wasn't long for this organization. That said the Blues simply don't have a trade that works for the Flames. Plenty of other US teams can offer better players/prospects.
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06-21-2021, 06:39 PM
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#14058
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Because Calgary, for some inexplicable reason, believes they are a move or two away from contention, as they do every year despite evidence to the contrary.
Honestly, I don’t know why the Blues even consider this deal for a second. Tarasenko alone has more value than Chucky.
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Lol
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06-21-2021, 07:10 PM
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#14059
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Franchise Player
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Maybe a Monahan for Taransenko swap would be interesting. Broken for broken and change up the top 6.
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06-21-2021, 07:11 PM
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#14060
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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I dont think we should give a single #### about where Matt wants to play if he's asking for a trade. He can figure that out with his next team. We should trade him for the best package possible. We owe him nothing.
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