08-07-2024, 02:14 PM
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#161
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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They will get either pick. I currently own both but owe Boston whichever of them is lower.
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08-07-2024, 02:14 PM
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#162
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First Line Centre
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It was my understanding that one of these picks will be coming to Boston. That's the way I understood their standing condition with OTT. NAS or OTT, can you please confirm?
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08-07-2024, 02:16 PM
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#163
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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I own both. I traded one to Boston, but it's going to be whichever one is lower of the 2. There is no condition in which Boston does not get one of those two picks from me.
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08-07-2024, 02:19 PM
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#164
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Franchise Player
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These conditions on top of conditions create downstream problems particularly when GMs leave
You are basically trading a condition.
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08-07-2024, 02:22 PM
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#165
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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I see your point, but Cam isn't trading a hyphothetical. One of those picks is his. We just don't know which one yet. It's worded a bit funny between him and Bagopucks, but there's no additional condition, it's just letting Bagopucks know which pick it will be, becasue we don't know yet.
If the CHI pick is 10th and the Van pick is 20th, then BOS gets the 20th pick to complete the trade between BOS and OTT. He then sends that pick to Bagopucks. There is no additional condition to be met, that I can see.
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08-07-2024, 02:47 PM
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#166
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Newfoundland
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I am one of the more active gms in the league, I've never not met a condition, if some bails then it should be made clear to the new GM they have to honor it
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08-07-2024, 03:36 PM
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#167
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First Line Centre
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It is a fair concern for Jiri and group. In the past what I have done is actually move one pick so that it is physically accounted for and not forgotten about. Alternatively, we need a condition that OTT can't trade either pick.. it appears implicit and the intent of the OTT gm but conditionally that would help maintain the accounting of picks.
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08-07-2024, 03:59 PM
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#168
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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If it helps, in trade discussions I have already told other GMs that one of those picks is accounted for and I don't know which one yet. If I were to trade him my Chicago pick, for example, then we would just need another condition that if ends up the higher pick, than I have to trade the other pick for it back. Either way the additional pick will not be traded without the other party knowing they won't know which pick it it will be until later.
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08-07-2024, 04:39 PM
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#169
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Franchise Player
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Well I would say you can’t trade either
They are both now locked up in a condition
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08-07-2024, 04:40 PM
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#170
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Franchise Player
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I would also really prefer we use the terms earlier/later instead of lower/higher which can be miss interpreted
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08-07-2024, 04:50 PM
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#171
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Franchise Player
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Brad Treliving has entered the chat.
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08-13-2024, 10:03 PM
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#172
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Islanders trade Andre Burakovsky, Ryan Suter, and Matt Nieto to Buffalo for Olli Maatta and Nikita Chibrikov.
Needed to shed a body and picked up a solid prospect in the process. Think this one will work out for both sides, thanks to SportsJunky for the quick deal.
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08-14-2024, 11:57 AM
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#173
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Islanders and Blue Jackets have agreed to terms on a deal: Darcy Kuemper, Reid Schaefer, Andreas Englund, and a 2025 2nd to CBJ for Jacob Markstrom.
Thanks to BagoPucks for the fun talks!
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08-14-2024, 12:55 PM
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#174
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Islanders and Blue Jackets have made another deal: Thomas Bordeleau and Darren Raddysh to CBJ for Radko Gudas.
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08-14-2024, 02:09 PM
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#175
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First Line Centre
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Konecny goes to Carolina for Hayton, McMichael and goyette. CBJ sends 4 M this year and 2 m next year to CAR
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08-14-2024, 09:35 PM
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#176
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Islanders trade Logan Thompson and Ben Danford to Detroit for Anton Forsberg, Miko Matikka, DET's 2025 2nd, and DET's 2026 4th.
Wanted to recoup some picks and cut down on CPHL salaries after acquiring Markstrom. I really like Forsberg and debated trying for him in free agency. Danford is a good prospect who I snagged low in the draft this year. Matikka is coming off a very good freshman year at Denver and has a chance to play games with Utah this year — had been looking at ways to get him for a while.
Thompson should be a nice stabilizing presence for Detroit. I like him, but I don't need two starters! Glad this worked out for both teams. Thanks to the Wings for the talks.
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08-16-2024, 10:52 AM
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#177
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Sec 224 Row 12
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Quick and easy trade with "new" Florida GM
To Florida: Sam Bennett
To St. Louis: Adam Henrique + cap equalization (1 year, $0.75 M)
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08-16-2024, 11:33 AM
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#178
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Franchise Player
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The Verhague saga comes to an end.
To Arizona
Carter Verhague
To Montreal
2025 1st Arizona
We were close on numerous deals and figured he would be moved quickly after the batch winners were announced.
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08-16-2024, 02:39 PM
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#179
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Newfoundland
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Raanta to the caps for a 4th.
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08-16-2024, 04:42 PM
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#180
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First Line Centre
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Jackets have traded Giordano and Emil Andrae to the Bruins for Ross Colton and Jakub Lauko
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