I literally can't think of another one, so... that's probably your answer. The guy was legitimately a big deal for a year or two. But I'm still not sure what your point was. That if he didn't remain culturally relevant forever, the commentary in the initial post is somehow rendered wrong in retrospect? Not making much sense.
I actually don't know what even happened to him, if it was just a matter of people just no longer paying attention to him or something else. I vaguely recall he had some sort of health issue at one point... I assume he didn't die, because I feel like I'd have heard about that.
He was ill but he's making the rounds again with a new book. Beyond Order: 12 More Rules. I think like anything, he's got outdated and he's does have some bad takes. He can't get past the religion stuff and he generalizes a lot. He tried to debate Sam Harris, didn't go well.
Myself, I've never viewed Peterson as having great views but if his books or videos can help young men, that's not a bad thing. The criticism of him 'raising white men from the ashes to be evil' was always done in poor taste.
He was recently on Megyn Kelly's show (I know I've been mentioning her alot) and I think she clearly wins this discussion. He tried his "women are too agreeable" schtick with her and she wouldn't have any of it.
He was ill but he's making the rounds again with a new book. Beyond Order: 12 More Rules. I think like anything, he's got outdated and he's does have some bad takes. He can't get past the religion stuff and he generalizes a lot. He tried to debate Sam Harris, didn't go well.
Myself, I've never viewed Peterson as having great views but if his books or videos can help young men, that's not a bad thing. The criticism of him 'raising white men from the ashes to be evil' was always done in poor taste.
He was recently on Megyn Kelly's show (I know I've been mentioning her alot) and I think she clearly wins this discussion. He tried his "women are too agreeable" schtick with her and she wouldn't have any of it.
You are correct. I listened to the audiobook of 12 rules then returned it.
I’m sure it’s been mentioned he was a campaigning member of the Alberta NDP and grew up with Rachel Notley.
In his book he talks about a really great friend he had throughout adolescence and adulthood from Fairview. Based on what he writes about his person, in his view he would progressively get into anti-establishment ideas or what Peterson would call “the radical left.” It came to a point where this person committed suicide.
From my perspective on him, he’s suffering the ill effects of this trauma along with all other traumatic experiences his witnesses in clinical practice. He also details his daughters autoimmune disorder which again is traumatic.
He basically takes his knowledge, understanding, and experiences in academic and clinical psychology and bastardizes them to give himself intellectual license and authority on a whole range of topics which he has an astounding level of ignorance.
Joseph Campbell did deep work on myths in all cultures. I found it really interesting because he really explore the universality of sport in all culture and how it is profoundly useful to enable the relatively safe release of adolescent aggression as people mature into adults.
Jordan Peterson takes similar understanding and uses them in random, sporadic, disorganized, and strange ways to write books that exercise his own demons.
12 rules? Why?
His work has some value because he has legitimate practical experience in helping people through this work. But he is downright weird at times when he goes off on rants about Elmo or any number of Disney Movies.
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What do you guys think of the stuff happening in schools? Is this latest whistleblower incident going to make any difference. Is Rossi going to become the next big thing?
There is something very funny about imaging the type of person who gets a verbal reprimand from their boss *once* and decides to write an essay about the state of the world and how much praise they got for what they said.
Like can you imagine?
“Dave, the report was due yesterday, I need it this afternoon and don’t let it happen again.”
“....In this essay, I will discuss the new fascism of project deadlines, everyone agrees with me!”
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So dumb. You get the vaccine so you can't spread the virus onto others.
So infuriating reading that. Virus is going to last years.
To be fair, it's not Rogan's fault a good portion of his fanbase are mouthbreathing morons who take everything he says as gospel. I just wish he was more cognizant/accountable to the fact that they are.
ROGAN: "... And, you know, I can tell you as someone who has -- both my children got the virus. It was nothing. I mean, I hate to say that if someone’s children died from this. I’m very sorry that that happened. I’m not in any way diminishing that. But I'm saying the personal experience that my children had with COVID was nothing."
What an unbelievable f-ckwit.
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So dumb. You get the vaccine so you can't spread the virus onto others.
So infuriating reading that. Virus is going to last years.
It's a bit of "not spreading it to others" and a bit of "preventing yourself from having severe symptoms or what is colloquially being called 'long COVID' (lingering symptoms or long term lung damage post infection)".
There are good selfish reasons for getting the shot as there are good unselfish reasons.
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Here you go. Jordan Peterson on the Sunday Special. And as annoying as Shapiro is on his daily show, he's a good interviewer. I like the Sunday Special every week.
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You are correct. I listened to the audiobook of 12 rules then returned it.
I’m sure it’s been mentioned he was a campaigning member of the Alberta NDP and grew up with Rachel Notley.
In his book he talks about a really great friend he had throughout adolescence and adulthood from Fairview. Based on what he writes about his person, in his view he would progressively get into anti-establishment ideas or what Peterson would call “the radical left.” It came to a point where this person committed suicide.
From my perspective on him, he’s suffering the ill effects of this trauma along with all other traumatic experiences his witnesses in clinical practice. He also details his daughters autoimmune disorder which again is traumatic.
He basically takes his knowledge, understanding, and experiences in academic and clinical psychology and bastardizes them to give himself intellectual license and authority on a whole range of topics which he has an astounding level of ignorance.
Joseph Campbell did deep work on myths in all cultures. I found it really interesting because he really explore the universality of sport in all culture and how it is profoundly useful to enable the relatively safe release of adolescent aggression as people mature into adults.
Jordan Peterson takes similar understanding and uses them in random, sporadic, disorganized, and strange ways to write books that exercise his own demons.
12 rules? Why?
His work has some value because he has legitimate practical experience in helping people through this work. But he is downright weird at times when he goes off on rants about Elmo or any number of Disney Movies.
Thanked for reference to Joseph Campbell. I bought the Power of Myth book way back when in high school and it gave me great perspective, inspired further reading and equipped me for a lot of future conversations
Here you go. Jordan Peterson on the Sunday Special. And as annoying as Shapiro is on his daily show, he's a good interviewer. I like the Sunday Special every week.
That explains things.
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He got good guests on if your open to it. Conservative leaning obviously but he has guests from the "left" too. Again, he asks good questions and stays out of it.
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He got good guests on if your open to it. Conservative leaning obviously but he has guests from the "left" too. Again, he asks good questions and stays out of it.
Not really. It's heavily right biased, it doesn't just lean that way, and while he throws a guest from "the left" a spot here and there, that's not the bread and butter of the show.
The topics and guests heavily rely on right-wing victimization, pseudo-intellectualism, Islamophobia, fear-mongering over socialism, far-right conspiracy theories, and the like.
At least guys like Rogan have an actual mix of guests and instead of pretending to be an intellectual, aren't afraid to figure things out as they go. Shapiro is a far-right troll with an agenda, and if that's not apparent to you, then you're the one getting played.
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Not really. It's heavily right biased, it doesn't just lean that way, and while he throws a guest from "the left" a spot here and there, that's not the bread and butter of the show.
The topics and guests heavily rely on right-wing victimization, pseudo-intellectualism, Islamophobia, fear-mongering over socialism, far-right conspiracy theories, and the like.
At least guys like Rogan have an actual mix of guests and instead of pretending to be an intellectual, aren't afraid to figure things out as they go. Shapiro is a far-right troll with an agenda, and if that's not apparent to you, then you're the one getting played.
I just want to hear guests speak, agenda and all. I don't care what show it is.
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You are correct. I listened to the audiobook of 12 rules then returned it.
I’m sure it’s been mentioned he was a campaigning member of the Alberta NDP and grew up with Rachel Notley.
In his book he talks about a really great friend he had throughout adolescence and adulthood from Fairview. Based on what he writes about his person, in his view he would progressively get into anti-establishment ideas or what Peterson would call “the radical left.” It came to a point where this person committed suicide.
From my perspective on him, he’s suffering the ill effects of this trauma along with all other traumatic experiences his witnesses in clinical practice. He also details his daughters autoimmune disorder which again is traumatic.
He basically takes his knowledge, understanding, and experiences in academic and clinical psychology and bastardizes them to give himself intellectual license and authority on a whole range of topics which he has an astounding level of ignorance.
Joseph Campbell did deep work on myths in all cultures. I found it really interesting because he really explore the universality of sport in all culture and how it is profoundly useful to enable the relatively safe release of adolescent aggression as people mature into adults.
Jordan Peterson takes similar understanding and uses them in random, sporadic, disorganized, and strange ways to write books that exercise his own demons.
12 rules? Why?
His work has some value because he has legitimate practical experience in helping people through this work. But he is downright weird at times when he goes off on rants about Elmo or any number of Disney Movies.
Jordan Peterson’s deep dives on Disney movies are fantastic.
For that matter, his university lectures are great too. I’ve listened to a number of his courses during the pandemic - he has a series of lectures on the Bible that are fantastic, and this is coming from someone who hasn’t been to church in a decade.
When he’s talking to a room of his students or lecturing to an audience, and not engaged in some mindless back and forth with either a fanboy or someone
Trying to jam him up, or some simpering clod like Ben Shapiro or Dave Rubin, he’s quite captivating. And as a soon to be new dad, his stuff on child development is also fantastic.
I certainly don’t get quite why he’s such a polarizing figure - he’s almost an over the top cartoon of a professor.
We can disagree with him, but it doesn’t mean he’s the Red Skull.
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