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Old 04-14-2024, 08:39 AM   #341
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The right kind though. Not all magnesium is made equal.

Read the labels, make sure it isn't oxide. That one's a poorly absorbed form that's basically a laxative. It's cheap and easily produced which is why it's the one in your basic store bought brands like Jamiesons.

Magtein/L-Threonate and Glycinate/Bisglycinate are fantastic.

Sleeping on Magnesium can as much as double your REM sleep time, which means that even if you sleep less, you can get more high quality sleep in. I'll feel as refreshed from 4 hours of magnesium sleep as 7 hours without it.
Tell me more! I'm dealing with a bout of insomnia right now. Was reading up on Mg and looks like it can help with restless leg syndrome, REM sleep, etc. Do you take it just before bed? Have to take it for a few days/week to see benefits?

Looked at Mg rich foods and hardly eat any of them so hoping this could help.
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Not getting my sarcasm should give you more anxiety. Might be anxiety. It’s totally anxiety. It’s 3:27 am for me when it starts kicking in.
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Tell me more! I'm dealing with a bout of insomnia right now. Was reading up on Mg and looks like it can help with restless leg syndrome, REM sleep, etc. Do you take it just before bed? Have to take it for a few days/week to see benefits?

Looked at Mg rich foods and hardly eat any of them so hoping this could help.
Getting the right kind of magnesium supplement is important. Threonate or Clycinate are best and 200-400mg taken 2-3 hours before bedtime.
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Getting the right kind of magnesium supplement is important. Threonate or Clycinate are best and 200-400mg taken 2-3 hours before bedtime.
Thanks...looks like Bisglycinate is the best option (assume that's what you suggested) from what I read, easy to find. And yeah, don't what to get the squirts at 3am. Lol.
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Not getting my sarcasm should give you more anxiety. Might be anxiety. It’s totally anxiety. It’s 3:27 am for me when it starts kicking in.
Oh dude. Sorry man. Thats me. I set my phone to call you every morning at 3:27 am and play:



Its just so happy and upbeat, I thought it would help you sleep.

I see now that it plays on repeat for like 3 hours straight, but I didnt know how to change that setting.
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Oh dude. Sorry man. Thats me. I set my phone to call you every morning at 3:27 am and play:



Its just so happy and upbeat, I thought it would help you sleep.

I see now that it plays on repeat for like 3 hours straight, but I didnt know how to change that setting.
Getting in touch with your inner Negan?
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Getting in touch with your inner Negan?
They call me a cynical monster, but I like to think I'm just 'ahead of the curve.'
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Thanks...looks like Bisglycinate is the best option (assume that's what you suggested) from what I read, easy to find. And yeah, don't what to get the squirts at 3am. Lol.
A quick Google search seems to indicate Bisglycinate and Glycinate are the same thing so, yes. I've been buying this one from Amaranth which already has decent pricing but also has 20% off sales on the 1st Wednesday of every month.

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Getting in touch with your inner Negan?
And, funny story...in the days when my wife and I watched The Walking Dead together I did take her phone and change her ring-tone to that song and she kept it for YEARS.

I thought it was pretty funny but I'm not entirely sure she knows how to change her ringtone.
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And, funny story...in the days when my wife and I watched The Walking Dead together I did take her phone and change her ring-tone to that song and she kept it for YEARS.

I thought it was pretty funny but I'm not entirely sure she knows how to change her ringtone.
You better hope she doesn't get her hands on a "Lucille".
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You better hope she doesn't get her hands on a "Lucille".
Oh that ship has sailed. My house is a very 'Heads Up' environment.
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You guys might ask your doc about Gabapentin. It wasn’t developed as a sleep drug but it was discovered it kept users asleep, but doesn’t help you fall asleep. It has no dependencies or side affects. I’ve been using it for years. I’m on my second doc who prescribe it for me.
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Take magnesium.

One of the elemental salt-derived forms (glycinate, malate, taurate etc)

Don't take the laxative forms lol. That's usually the kind you'll get in your basic store shelf brands (I.e. Jamiesons).
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You guys might ask your doc about Gabapentin. It wasn’t developed as a sleep drug but it was discovered it kept users asleep, but doesn’t help you fall asleep. It has no dependencies or side affects. I’ve been using it for years. I’m on my second doc who prescribe it for me.
Interesting. GABA is a supplement that has been recommended for aiding in sleep. Thanks for the info.
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I asked my Doctor and he just came back with a soaking rag that smelled like Chloroform.

Best sleep I've had in years!

Waking up in the bathtub full of ice was a lot less fun though.
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You guys might ask your doc about Gabapentin. It wasn’t developed as a sleep drug but it was discovered it kept users asleep, but doesn’t help you fall asleep. It has no dependencies or side affects. I’ve been using it for years. I’m on my second doc who prescribe it for me.
Not sure where you get your info from, but gabapentin does have side effects and isn't some harmless sleep aid.

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Mood changes: Some individuals might experience mood changes, including shifts in emotions or behavior. If you notice any unusual changes in your mood, consult your doctor. They might consider adjusting your medication or exploring alternative treatment options if necessary.

Swelling in extremities: Swollen arms and legs can occur as a side effect of gabapentin. To alleviate this, consider sitting with your feet elevated and avoiding prolonged periods of standing. If the swelling persists, discuss this with your healthcare provider.

Blurred vision: Blurred vision can be a side effect of gabapentin. During this time, avoid activities such as driving, cycling, or operating machinery that require clear vision. If blurred vision persists beyond a few days, consult your doctor for potential adjustments to your treatment plan.

Difficulty getting an erection: Some individuals might experience difficulty achieving or maintaining an erection while taking gabapentin. If this side effect occurs, talk to your doctor about possible solutions or alternative medications that could help manage this issue.

Weight gain: Gabapentin can increase hunger, potentially leading to weight gain. Managing your diet and portion sizes while also maintaining a healthy exercise routine can help prevent excessive weight gain.

Memory problems: If you encounter memory issues while taking gabapentin, consult your prescribing physician. They can assess whether this side effect is related to the medication and recommend appropriate actions.

Headaches: While headaches are a possible side effect of gabapentin, they usually diminish within the first week of usage. However, if headaches persist or are severe, inform your healthcare provider to determine the best course of action.

Increased infections: Some individuals might notice an increase in the frequency of infections. If you observe this effect, consult your doctor for guidance.
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Not sure where you get your info from, but gabapentin does have side effects and isn't some harmless sleep aid.




https://www.gratitudelodge.com/gabap...uined-my-life/
I’ve had two docs prescribe it. My info comes from them. Maybe I should have says “no significant risk of side effects.”
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I took 350 of the magnesium was up all night, worst sleep I have had in a while. Missed the gym and everything.

You guys buying the ones laced with Gaba and Melatonin?
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I find that cold showers do the trick.
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A quick Google search seems to indicate Bisglycinate and Glycinate are the same thing so, yes. I've been buying this one from Amaranth which already has decent pricing but also has 20% off sales on the 1st Wednesday of every month.

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I took 350 of the magnesium was up all night, worst sleep I have had in a while. Missed the gym and everything.

You guys buying the ones laced with Gaba and Melatonin?
Nope. See above. Also, I see a lot of research recommending against supplementing with Melatonin.

What type of magnesium is it?
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