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Old 01-14-2021, 10:33 AM   #961
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There's a great podcast about Rob Ford and it discussed that same strategy, and why it wasn't as genuine as it seemed. Basically it's for populist support, not because he cared - and his "call back" list was managed by staff, not out of his own volition.
Yeah, basically reply with "we're looking into it, doing all we can, etc." knowing nothing would be done. Then the person would be all "The mayor called me back! He really cares."
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Deerfoot isn't even a city responsibility.
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1349752939791831041

He's still going on about this today. Talk about picking the weirdest hill to die on, complete with misleading statements!
The first reply to that tweet.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1349756066544775170

Love how they throw the bit in there about "pedestrians, transit riders, and those with moblity issues." Because I'm sure they really care about that.
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Old 01-14-2021, 10:44 AM   #964
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The first reply to that tweet.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1349756066544775170

Love how they throw the bit in there about "pedestrians, transit riders, and those with moblity issues." Because I'm sure they really care about that.
I didn't realize the cycling budget was so high. It's insane to me that the cost of clearing bike lanes is equivalent to clearing all the roads for the 1.3 million calgarians. Spendshi indeed.
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Old 01-14-2021, 10:49 AM   #965
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I didn't realize the cycling budget was so high. It's insane to me that the cost of clearing bike lanes is equivalent to clearing all the roads for the 1.3 million calgarians. Spendshi indeed.
Ah nuts, he's onto us at the big evil bike lobby. Guess the gravy train is over.
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Old 01-14-2021, 10:50 AM   #966
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Farkas is such a whiny little bitch. Imagine that being your guy.
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The first reply to that tweet.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1349756066544775170

Love how they throw the bit in there about "pedestrians, transit riders, and those with moblity issues." Because I'm sure they really care about that.
I'm the furthest thing from a Farkas supporter, but there is something to this. People in wheelchairs or who use walkers have major problems with the windrows created when they do plow. I don't really think that's a bike lane vs. roads issue (I like the bike lanes and they should build more), but I know a number of people affected by this and I do think that more should be done to avoid it. It really does trap these people, and creates a barrier for them.
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Old 01-14-2021, 10:58 AM   #968
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I'm the furthest thing from a Farkas supporter, but there is something to this. People in wheelchairs or who use walkers have major problems with the windrows created when they do plow. I don't really think that's a bike lane vs. roads issue (I like the bike lanes and they should build more), but I know a number of people affected by this and I do think that more should be done to avoid it. It really does trap these people, and creates a barrier for them.

The point is that the bike lane clearance would allow you to clean 1 boulevard in Silverado, which barely anyone uses anyway. The idea that prioritizing a transportation corridor downtown that gets used by people to get to work is taking away from clearing Glenmore, Crowchild or Macleod is absurd. It comes at the expense of clearing a community road that serves even less people from less parts of the city.
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The culdesac I live in was never entirely cleared.

The 5-10 daily drivers that frequent this culdesac should take priority over the 100+ daily winter cyclists that use the 12th ave. I am outraged.
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I'm the furthest thing from a Farkas supporter, but there is something to this. People in wheelchairs or who use walkers have major problems with the windrows created when they do plow. I don't really think that's a bike lane vs. roads issue (I like the bike lanes and they should build more), but I know a number of people affected by this and I do think that more should be done to avoid it. It really does trap these people, and creates a barrier for them.
CJ already touched on this, but he's 100% right.
Clearing the bike lanes has a completely negligible impact on the pace at which major roads get cleaned.

This is the equivalent of telling a traffic cop "don't you know there are murders to solve?"

Well yeah, there are, that's not my job, and if I stopped doing this those murders don't get solved faster, this job just doesn't get done.

Not clearing the bike lanes doesn't mean Deerfood gets done quicker, it just means the bike lanes don't get cleared.
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I'm the furthest thing from a Farkas supporter, but there is something to this. People in wheelchairs or who use walkers have major problems with the windrows created when they do plow. I don't really think that's a bike lane vs. roads issue (I like the bike lanes and they should build more), but I know a number of people affected by this and I do think that more should be done to avoid it. It really does trap these people, and creates a barrier for them.
This highlights the real issue.



The city doesn't plow sidewalks (unless they border city property), that's a building owner responsibility. The city does plow roads and pathways, so the cycle track being Priority 1 is because wheelchair users and others with mobility issues can use them if the sidewalks are impassable. Accessibility issues have been a long standing problem. Similar to windrows creating barriers at crossings, contractors are paid to clear a bus stop, but the plow wind rows the curb, creating barriers between bus stops and the bus, another accessibility problem (and general safety concern).



The narrative shouldn't be that cycle tracks are getting priority, it should be that areas with high pedestrian traffic where accessibility issues arise aren't the priority. But the solution to the problem costs money, and doesn't win any favor with the 'cut taxes, but also plow and remove snow from my cul-de-sac' crowd.
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The point is that the bike lane clearance would allow you to clean 1 boulevard in Silverado, which barely anyone uses anyway. The idea that prioritizing a transportation corridor downtown that gets used by people to get to work is taking away from clearing Glenmore, Crowchild or Macleod is absurd. It comes at the expense of clearing a community road that serves even less people from less parts of the city.
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CJ already touched on this, but he's 100% right.
Clearing the bike lanes has a completely negligible impact on the pace at which major roads get cleaned.

This is the equivalent of telling a traffic cop "don't you know there are murders to solve?"

Well yeah, there are, that's not my job, and if I stopped doing this those murders don't get solved faster, this job just doesn't get done.

Not clearing the bike lanes doesn't mean Deerfood gets done quicker, it just means the bike lanes don't get cleared.
I didn't mean to imply there was something to that end of the conversation. I was just referring the to mobility issues and clearing, which I hoped was evident in my post. I just think that for people with mobility issues, the snow clearing leaves a lot to be desired. I've been out with people in wheelchairs or with a walker, and it's honestly a nightmare.

In a perfect world, the city would clear all the snow from every street and truck it away (or melt it away). I don't want to pay taxes for all that, so I'm fine with things the way they are.
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Jeromy Farkas is rousing up suburbanite outrage with a false dichotomy?

I am shocked! Shocked!

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How the hell can anyone digest Farkas and want some more?

Is it not incredibly obvious how he has no issues conflating things to pander to his base? I can’t repeat it enough...we are one of the lowest taxed places in Canada, yet consistently rank exceptionally high on livability and satisfaction indexes. What exactly is the problem?
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Old 01-14-2021, 12:07 PM   #975
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And Farkas knows all this - he's not a dummy, I'll give him that - but he's purposely framing this item to enrage Calgarians and follow him to "Clean Up City Hall". That alone is enough to make me not want to vote for him; then there's all the other stuff he does. Maybe Rick Bell can be his campaign manager.
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Old 01-14-2021, 12:13 PM   #976
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How the hell can anyone digest Farkas and want some more?

Is it not incredibly obvious how he has no issues conflating things to pander to his base? I can’t repeat it enough...we are one of the lowest taxed places in Canada, yet consistently rank exceptionally high on livability and satisfaction indexes. What exactly is the problem?
The problem is that, like everywhere else, Calgary is also home to a bunch of entitled rubes who don't understand the world around them and are as gullible as small children through their entire adulthood.

I would be surprised if Farkas supporters could complete a basic math equation or even get through a children's book without becoming somewhat confused.

I assume they think secretly think Santa is real and that eating watermelon seeds will make a watermelon grow inside their belly.

Basically, Farkas supporters have never entertained a critical, well-reasoned, or logical thought in their lives. They don't know what makes water boil they just know what number you turn the dial to.
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Old 01-14-2021, 02:04 PM   #977
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Lol, definitely going to steal this.

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Where is the best place to get information on mayoral candidates and councillors. I would like to read policy and voting history and such from somewhere that has these things amalgamated. Where do you all get your info?
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Old 01-14-2021, 06:22 PM   #979
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Wait until they kick their campaigns into gear then check election websites, collect literature that comes to your door, read stories in the media, attend forums.
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Ya, this is way to soon. What does this look like, America?
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