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Old 06-11-2019, 03:53 PM   #1641
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Current immigration policy is exceptionally to the right as well.

Some might even point to the current (and growing) level of US isolationism as being a right-shift indicator as well, in relation to the rest of the world, though NeoCons are definitely not happy about the shift away from the global market.
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Old 06-11-2019, 07:02 PM   #1642
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You think a Trump presidency is to the right.. you nearly had a Cruz presidency.
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:32 PM   #1643
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Really? Even Republicans are all for blowing out the budget now. Virtually none of them are willing to tackle entitlement reform, and the national debt continues to balloon under them with no end in sight. I'm not sure what exactly you mean by shifting to the right (I am sure there are some examples) but if we are talking entitlements and fiscal conservatism, I think things are moving decidedly left.

That's nothing new. Here's the increase in US debt under every Republican administration since Eisenhower:

Nixon/Ford (8 years): 78%
Reagan (8 years): 186%
H.W. Bush (4 years): 97%
W. Bush (8 years): 77%



Compared to Democratic administrations:

Kennedy/Johnson (8 years): 22%
Carter (4 years): 46%
Clinton (8 years): 40%
Obama (8 years): 114% (most of this was due to 2008; it only increased by 22% in his 2nd term)
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Old 06-11-2019, 08:37 PM   #1644
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At this point nothing will stop the debt from growing unless a law is passed forcing them to reduce the deficit by 20% each year, something that is entirely doable. Once the deficit is leveled out, either you either cut spending so that your debt to GDP grows smaller, or grow the GDP to achieve the same thing. Also very doable.

The US has extremely bloated spending programs. A law that mandates small spending cuts each year could easily work.
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Old 06-11-2019, 09:44 PM   #1645
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Is Jon Stewart some kind of politician now or what’s the deal there? Anyone know?
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Old 06-11-2019, 10:03 PM   #1646
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Is Jon Stewart some kind of politician now or what’s the deal there? Anyone know?
He's been an advocate of this cause for ages... back when he had his show he did a few segments on 9/11 first-responders where he was talking with them about their frustrations with a total lack of government action on this, and when nothing had changed year-after-year of interviewing them, he took an increasingly active role in trying to champion their cause.

I don't think he wants anything to do with politics for the most part, but still feels an obligation to do what he can to help this particular group.
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Old 06-12-2019, 01:06 AM   #1647
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He's been an advocate of this cause for ages... back when he had his show he did a few segments on 9/11 first-responders where he was talking with them about their frustrations with a total lack of government action on this, and when nothing had changed year-after-year of interviewing them, he took an increasingly active role in trying to champion their cause.

I don't think he wants anything to do with politics for the most part, but still feels an obligation to do what he can to help this particular group.
I think he lost or nearly lost a childhood friend that day as well.
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Old 06-12-2019, 02:43 AM   #1648
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You think a Trump presidency is to the right.. you nearly had a Cruz presidency.
Right or left of the current presidency, it's hard to imagine any other defined by such a high degree of madness, instability and corruption as this one. God forbid that anyone would pine after a Cruz presidency but I don't believe it would have been matched the craziness of this one in certain respects. At least he introduced the bill proposing to keep immigrant families from being separated in detention.

In regards to the myriad of trade wars and foreign policy gaffs that Trump has committed it's hard to imagine anyone else even beginning down the paths that he's forged.

One similarity I think we would have certainly seen is the high number of ultra conservative judicial appointments at all levels around the country. This of course is as much thanks to Mitch McConnell as Trump.

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Old 06-12-2019, 11:05 AM   #1649
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Trump melting down this morning from new polls saying he'd lose to every single democratic nominee in 2020.

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Trump melting down this morning from new polls saying he'd lose to every single democratic nominee in 2020. ...
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Hi Mel

can you translate this for me?

https://twitter.com/statuses/1138881397379276800
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He's coming right out and admitting it. And nothing will be done.

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Really? Even Republicans are all for blowing out the budget now. Virtually none of them are willing to tackle entitlement reform, and the national debt continues to balloon under them with no end in sight.
Republicans have always been about blowing up the budget. Their cries of fiscal conservatism are all a bunch of baloney meant to appeal to the stupid and those refusing to pay attention to the reality hitting them in the face. Look at the biggest spending presidents since the depression ended, and all of them have been Republicans. If you look at the expansion of government, it was all Republican administrations who spun up these large departments, and then maxed out the credit card on the expansion of the military across the globe. It's a great tag line to trot out, but in reality its a punchline that Republicans can use at their fund raising dinners that is guaranteed to draw laughs.

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I'm not sure what exactly you mean by shifting to the right (I am sure there are some examples) but if we are talking entitlements and fiscal conservatism, I think things are moving decidedly left.
No, we're not. Entitlement funding is drying up. This is a distinct shift to the right. Considering the requirements for entitlements, there should be legislation being passed to strengthen the funding. Instead the funding streams are weakened and revenues that could be used to prop them up are turned back to the uber rich in the form of tax breaks. I don't know how anyone cannot see this very obvious strategy being executed in policy and action.

On entitlements, I still wonder why this is a bad word and how the hell conservatives managed to get people to believe it is a bad word. You are damn rights these are entitlements! I have been paying into (investing) these entitlement programs for decades. I have been doing so under the promise that when I reached a certain age that this money would come due and I would get a return on my investment. The idea that the government can arbitrarily make adjustments to reduce the payouts is just ####ing stupidity at the greatest of extremes. How would you people with RRSPs feel if the government stepped in and said, "Nope, you don't get the payout you were promised, we're going to change the nominal tax rate against those investments to 75% and you have to live with what you get." That fair?

Based on what I have paid into the system over the past 40+ years, they are getting a sweetheart of a deal for they have to pay out. I should be entitled to more, because it is my money that has been paid into the system and I am entitled to that money back, plus interest. But because I believe we should help raise our fellow man up I don't feel bad about taking a little bit of a haircut and receive only what they promised me. If they go back on that promise, like Trump is doing with a number of programs, there's going to be some pretty pissed people, and people wanting a pound of flesh. Eat the rich may indeed come to fruition if these "fiscal conservatives" try to strip away any more of the things people are entitled to.
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can you translate this for me?

https://twitter.com/statuses/1138881397379276800
It's simple.

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Hope Hicks just agreed to testify in the House hearings into the Mueller report.

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can you translate this for me?

https://twitter.com/statuses/1138881397379276800
Sure fill in those three dots first or post the full video to get context. Twitter bade!
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It's simple.

my god it's Ezra Levant!
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Sure fill in those three dots first or post the full video to get context. Twitter bade!
So.....no?
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So.....no?
Hey come on, think of the context! If you replace those three dots with:

"And that's, uh, I think it's different than, maybe, your interpretation, uh."

Then it becomes so clear.

It's what he SAID, not what he MEANT, and if you were listening to what he SAID, then your interpretation is maybe different than what he MEANT.

Crystal clear now, I'm sure.
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So.....no?
Watch the news conference which includes the left out part and he means "i know what i said and you are misinterpreting it"

twitter Lmfao!
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