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Old 03-07-2024, 04:52 PM   #21
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The worst part about that report is Edwards thinks we are a playoff contender.
Ok Spurs. We get it. Everything about the Flames sucks and they are the worst.

Good grief.
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This is an intentional leak.
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Or this is some extra hard bargaining by Conroy using “management” as the excuse.

“I can trade you Markstrom but sincerely Murray willnever go for it unless Mercer is included. That guy still thinks we can make the POs”.
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Odds of making it in (before tonight's games) hover around 20%.

But you'd have to weight that considerably lower given the recent departures on the blueline. Real odds probably in the 5% mark and would require a collapse from multiple teams
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Old 03-07-2024, 04:53 PM   #25
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....and higher draft pick.....does that mean that the 1st was never in there?
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Old 03-07-2024, 04:54 PM   #26
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Nice that Conman is negotiating in the media now too. F you Fitz.
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Hmm so if the rumours about the OG Markstrom trade are true I wonder if this is how it all played out:

-Flames and Devils agree in principle to Markstrom for Mercer and a 1st
-Conroy talks to Markstrom and he waves his NTC
-Talks resume and Devils pull Mercer from the offer and put in Holtz
-Conroy backs away
Conroy should tell Markstrom this is why the trade didn't go through. Tell him that they are not trading him for junk because they think he is worth more than junk.
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Mercer 1 for 1 is acceptable to me. Why we gotta squeeze so hard for a deal that literally gives you what you've been saying you need.

The extra pick just feels like a David Putney sitch (iykyk)
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Or this is some extra hard bargaining by Conroy using “management” as the excuse.

“I can trade you Markstrom but sincerely Murray willnever go for it unless Mercer is included. That guy still thinks we can make the POs”.
Kind of lines up that way doesn’t it? Now, suddenly there’s interest in Toronto!
I call Vegas or Colorado will be “interested” before this is settled
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Someone please tell Murray Edwards that when you trade your 3/4 defence that doesn't help you in making the playoffs...

There is also a difference between "Making" and "Competing"... this ownership group needs to stop seeing $$$ in the short term and realize that rebuilding will help them in the long run.
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The worst part about that report is Edwards thinks we are a playoff contender.
I doubt that. It’s a smokescreen.
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Do it Jersey. It’s honestly fair for both sides
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Or this is some extra hard bargaining by Conroy using “management” as the excuse.

“I can trade you Markstrom but sincerely Murray willnever go for it unless Mercer is included. That guy still thinks we can make the POs”.
That would be pretty smart My owner wants Mercer, and your owner wants Markstrom, just do it and makes both of our owners happy.
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With dissentowner saying the Leafs might be in the mix now for Markstrom, we could see Fitz cave and put Mercer on the table before the TDL.
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Old 03-07-2024, 04:57 PM   #35
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I'd take Mercer and a 2nd, potentially even 1 for 1 for Marky.

Gotta think about the dividends moving Marky will do for draft position this year, and the ability to finish bottom 10 next year and keep our pick.

Based on Sec and other reports, I think Conroy is taking a page out of Fitz's clown show and posturing with the media. And good on him for that. Give us Mercer or we'll see you in the summer pal
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This adds more colour to the whole "Meddling Ownership" babble.
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Mercer 1 for 1 is acceptable to me. Why we gotta squeeze so hard for a deal that literally gives you what you've been saying you need.

The extra pick just feels like a David Putney sitch (iykyk)
I would suspect it's for retention? If 22 games of 1.5m or so is a 4th, 2 years of 2 to 3m has to be worth something.
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This is either brilliant negotiating tactics by the Flames or very worrying that Edwards thinks the team can still make the playoffs. I really hope they just make the trade.
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Someone please tell Murray Edwards that when you trade your 3/4 defence that doesn't help you in making the playoffs...

There is also a difference between "Making" and "Competing"... this ownership group needs to stop seeing $$$ in the short term and realize that rebuilding will help them in the long run.
It isn’t about the playoff revenue from everything I’ve ever heard

It’s that EM does not like to lose . He always wants to win . And people around him (afraid??) constantly reinforce his idea that they can win . Hopefully Conroy can change that

Edwards wants a cup , not playoff revenue . The issue is he can’t see clearly the proper path to get there

Or so I’ve heard
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