09-21-2020, 12:37 PM
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#61
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Corral
I admire your contributions to this forum most of the time but sometimes I think you forger this is just a DISCUSSION forum on the internet.
Real evidence comes out in legal process. Which this is not
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No, that is not at all the disconnect. You are confusing this place for a WILD AND BASELESS SPECULATION FORUM. There is a huge difference between pertinent and productive discussion and irresponsible, alarmist conspiracy theory.
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09-21-2020, 01:33 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Corral
Well perhaps. But my comment was to point out that there is more to this story than what is public. Lanny is no fool, so he’s obviously covering for something or someone. To make the bald conclusion that it cannot possibly be his former employer who is influencing his position on this seems a bit short sighted for someone like yourself who makes their living asking questions on stuff others would presume is obvious, digging for dirt in unlikely places, making arguments just for the sake of it, or protecting others from foreseeable risk.
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he might be, if he honestly thinks more than a handful would care to read a book about what he's been up to since he quit playing.
I believe Textcritic hit the nail on the head in his post about Lanny perhaps feeling "buyers remorse."
I can't imagine there would have been any interest from any publisher for a manuscript about what Lanny has been up to in the past 20 years.
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09-21-2020, 04:31 PM
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#63
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Corral
Yes of course. And we are to take all your assertions without evidence at face value because.... as you put it to someone else here ... “you are a good lawyer”
Nice pat on the back for yourself there.
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What assertions without evidence? I can read the paper and the statement of claim - which sets out the contractual provision in question. I can read what they’ve each said on the record.
As for me being a good lawyer - well my hourly rate and the fact people pay it = res ipsa loquitur.
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09-21-2020, 04:33 PM
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#64
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by GordonBlue
he might be, if he honestly thinks more than a handful would care to read a book about what he's been up to since he quit playing.
I believe Textcritic hit the nail on the head in his post about Lanny perhaps feeling "buyers remorse."
I can't imagine there would have been any interest from any publisher for a manuscript about what Lanny has been up to in the past 20 years.
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Most of which has been well publicized.
There may also have been some some stuff which he figured would be downplayed but was more detailed than he’d have liked - his mom’s accident, his failure to get traction in management, etc.
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09-21-2020, 05:35 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Most of which has been well publicized.
There may also have been some some stuff which he figured would be downplayed but was more detailed than he’d have liked - his mom’s accident, his failure to get traction in management, etc.
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Absolutely likely that something or things that are a bit more salacious and sensational in nature will be brought up or focused on in the requisite promotional tour and media appearances.
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09-21-2020, 06:06 PM
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#66
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
What assertions without evidence? I can read the paper and the statement of claim - which sets out the contractual provision in question. I can read what they’ve each said on the record.
As for me being a good lawyer - well my hourly rate and the fact people pay it = res ipsa loquitur.
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The newspaper and the statement of claim are hardly evidence LOL.
BTW, what is your hourly rate?
I assume like most lawyers it’s outrageous.
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09-21-2020, 07:19 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
The newspaper and the statement of claim are hardly evidence LOL.
BTW, what is your hourly rate?
I assume like most lawyers it’s outrageous.
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They aren’t evidence - they are claims, which presumably will have at least some evidence behind them, as opposed to the Corral conspiracy theory which has nothing at all. No lawyer would make a statement in the paper or in a statement of claim that they can’t bring at least some evidence on. And the contractual provision McLellan-Day is citing is very common “consent not to withheld unreasonably “.
Hourly rate is just shy of $700. CPers might get a discount.
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09-21-2020, 07:37 PM
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#68
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Hourly rate is just shy of $700. CPers might get a discount.
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****in rights! I'm holding you to this.
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09-21-2020, 07:43 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by jayswin
****in rights! I'm holding you to this.
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He doesn't do small-time criminal law. I keed, I keed. I am assuming that's a tax law or corporate law rate, but good to see prices are up. I have not had to think about hourly rates in 13 or 14 years.
P.S. I am surprised anybody thought that there would be interest in a Lanny book at this point. Unless this is where we finally hear about him orgying with Margaret Trudeau and the Stones.
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09-21-2020, 07:45 PM
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#70
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Stampede Grounds
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
What assertions without evidence? I can read the paper and the statement of claim - which sets out the contractual provision in question. I can read what they’ve each said on the record.
As for me being a good lawyer - well my hourly rate and the fact people pay it = res ipsa loquitur.
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LOL like your hourly rate means much. Every shmo downtown with a suit on and a law degree pushes paper for that rate
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09-21-2020, 07:53 PM
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#71
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Stampede Grounds
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I’m going to move on from this. Frankly I don’t care at all what the story is behind this litigation anyways. Always fun to jab on CP though.
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09-21-2020, 08:09 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Corral
LOL like your hourly rate means much. Every shmo downtown with a suit on and a law degree pushes paper for that rate
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You didn’t get what I was saying, I guess.
Last edited by GioforPM; 09-21-2020 at 08:12 PM.
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09-21-2020, 08:12 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Corral
I’m going to move on from this. Frankly I don’t care at all what the story is behind this litigation anyways. Always fun to jab on CP though.
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When you bring along factual substantiation or, minimally, a little bit of credible knowledge, you’ll get a little bit more respect.
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09-21-2020, 08:15 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Moscow
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Originally Posted by Corral
LOL like your hourly rate means much. Every shmo downtown with a suit on and a law degree pushes paper for that rate
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Um, no, this is not remotely correct.
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09-21-2020, 08:19 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by timbit
When you bring along factual substantiation or, minimally, a little bit of credible knowledge, you’ll get a little bit more respect.
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Or to put it more colloquially, next time don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
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09-21-2020, 08:22 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
Or to put it more colloquially, next time don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
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Yep, hunting bear with a butter knife, often, is not a great idea.
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09-21-2020, 08:22 PM
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#77
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Corral
I’m going to move on from this. Frankly I don’t care at all what the story is behind this litigation anyways. Always fun to jab on CP though.
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09-21-2020, 08:56 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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Lanny v. Kirstie McLellan Day
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
They aren’t evidence - they are claims, which presumably will have at least some evidence behind them, as opposed to the Corral conspiracy theory which has nothing at all. No lawyer would make a statement in the paper or in a statement of claim that they can’t bring at least some evidence on. And the contractual provision McLellan-Day is citing is very common “consent not to withheld unreasonably “.
Hourly rate is just shy of $700. CPers might get a discount.
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I know they aren’t evidence, it was you who said they were.
But making any kind of assessment based simply on the statement of claim and a newspaper article is laughable at best.
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Last edited by The Cobra; 09-21-2020 at 09:05 PM.
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09-21-2020, 09:00 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
I know they aren’t evidence, it was you who said they were.
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Yes, I used the term loosely. But McLellan’s words, and Lanny’s words, as reported, are evidence, albeit unsworn and second hand.
As it is, there won’t be any further public disclosures, since they went into a private arbitration. I will see if I can get wind of who the arbitrator is.
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09-21-2020, 09:08 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Yes, I used the term loosely. But McLellan’s words, and Lanny’s words, as reported, are evidence, albeit unsworn and second hand.
As it is, there won’t be any further public disclosures, since they went into a private arbitration. I will see if I can get wind of who the arbitrator is.
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A reporters interpretation of what these people say is not even close to evidence.
You didn’t use the term loosely, you used it incorrectly.
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