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Old 03-22-2018, 09:28 PM   #41
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I think, on defense, you definitely keep Giordano and Hamilton. I'd actually venture that the Flames could stand to add a defenseman that plays the left side... if they trade Brodie, their LHD depth starts to look awfully thin: Giordano, Kulak, and then... Kylington? Yikes.
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:30 PM   #42
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Brodie please. If he can get a 1st rnd pick for him I would be astounded. I would be more than fine with that, addition by subtraction and a 1st for it, pure wizardry if he could pull it off.
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Hamonic is a stay at home defenseman. He's not going to be putting up goals on a daily basis when that isn't his main job. He's the least of our problems.

And when your partner is TJ freaking Brodie most nights your obviously going to have a rough time.
Again, you're free to your opinion, but I don't consider Hamonic to be particularily effective defensively. He's not exactly Chris Tanev or Hampus Lindholm defensively. He isn't terrible but he's not particularily good. He's just there most nights. Makes his share of misplays too, just like Brodie, but Brodie is the whipping boy this year even though he covers for Hamonic a ton. People want to trade Brodie because he has actual value, deep down they know Hamonic has very little value.

This is a roster that struggles to score. Saying it isn't Hamonic's job to score is pure handwaving, just like saying it isn't Monahan's job to backcheck or something. Everyone has to be competent at both ends. Seeing Hamonic get the puck at the point and kill offensive cycles is a nightly event. It has as much to do eith our second pair being terrible as the Brodie gaffes that stay fresh on peoples' minds because goal events are so memorable, non goal events are forgettable. When you are shooting 1% and have the highest missed net rate on your team you can't just hide behind being a stay at home defensive defenseman. Especially when your penalty kill is mediocre too.
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:31 PM   #44
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I think Kylington is ready imo. Can he be worse than Brodie in the D zone? I think not.
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Oh, please.

People loved Robyn Regehr for years when he was scoring as little as zero goals a season.
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Old 03-22-2018, 09:34 PM   #46
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Oh, please.

People loved Robyn Regehr for years when he was scoring as little as zero goals a season.
This is true, 2004 had a lot to do with that though

I think if the Flames had better forward depth and the 5+ wins that would have come with it Hamonic would be a fan favorite for his heavy play
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I think Kylington is ready imo. Can he be worse than Brodie in the D zone? I think not.
Entirely possible Kylington is ready. Entirely possible Valimaki jumps in right from junior. Both could make Brodie expendable
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NY Rangers have 3 firsts. Brodie and Bennett for Kreider and their 2nd first.
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NY Rangers have 3 firsts. Brodie and Bennett for Kreider and their 2nd first.
Can Kreider play RW. Even if not I still think Tkachuk would flourish on RW so I think that is a solid deal. Kreider is a beast.
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Kreider is worth Hamilton imo.
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NY Rangers have 3 firsts. Brodie and Bennett for Kreider and their 2nd first.
Find a way to keep Bennett, Add Kreider. I feel like we're just getting older in that trade.
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I'll guess Brodie for top 6 forward and Bennett for late 1st round pick.
Sounds about right. I could see something like Brodie + Kylington to Montreal for Gallagher and a 2nd (which will be an early 2nd), and Bennett to the Wings for the 1st they got from Vegas and a forward prospect. Then maybe leverage the 2nd to move up in the 1st round.

Or Brodie + Bennett to the Leafs for Kapanen + 1st.
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Oh, please.

People loved Robyn Regehr for years when he was scoring as little as zero goals a season.
We loved Regehr for his thundering hits and how he put the fear of God in Hemsky everytime he played against the Flames.

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Kreider is worth Hamilton imo.
Freddie?

lol come on guy...Flames aren't trading a 24 year old Dman leading the league in scoring for Kreider who has a career high of 53 points.

You sound more like a troll every day
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The way Kerr was talking today, the Shake up he envisions the Flames making is major.

I feel like this could potentially be a segway into a Carter and Richards offseason where they were the two best players on the Flyers and shipped out faster than you could blink.
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I just don’t think trading for a 1st is a very good move if you’re BT, and overall it looks like terrible asset management.

Trade a first for a d man, then trade a d-man (Brodie?) for a first? That’s just running around in circles. That is of course if we trade from our supposed area where we have a surplus.
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The way Kerr was talking today, the Shake up he envisions the Flames making is major.

I feel like this could potentially be a segway into a Carter and Richards offseason where they were the two best players on the Flyers and shipped out faster than you could blink.
What did Kerr say? Sound like he knew something, or just what he thought should happen?
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Oh, please.

People loved Robyn Regehr for years when he was scoring as little as zero goals a season.
Hamonic is more Sarich than Regehr.
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Freddie?

lol come on guy...Flames aren't trading a 24 year old Dman leading the league in scoring for Kreider who has a career high of 53 points.

You sound more like a troll every day
Ya he scores goals but causes more from his bone head plays. Keep thinking Dougie is Norris Calibre. Your on here all day get a life.
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The way Kerr was talking today, the Shake up he envisions the Flames making is major.

I feel like this could potentially be a segway into a Carter and Richards offseason where they were the two best players on the Flyers and shipped out faster than you could blink.
I could see the Flames re-tooling. By re-tool, I mean trade 2 core pieces. That would mean two of:

Gaudreau
Monahan
Backlund
Tkachuk
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