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Old 12-01-2019, 04:49 PM   #3621
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If the unions pursue the general strike or wildcat strikes it will be interesting to see the public reaction. I think Kenney thinks he’s a little more invincible than he really is though. Sentiment isn’t great these days and while he received a strong mandate, he’s started to irritate a lot of people as well.
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Old 12-01-2019, 05:06 PM   #3622
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I wish we had the means to recall a premier.
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Old 12-01-2019, 05:11 PM   #3623
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so the next round of cut-backs will fall on us non-profit do-gooders, just like all of the previous rounds of cut-backs

as alek mentioned poor EMS response means poor recovery: more outpatient recovery -- more post accident therapy appointments to therapy/ community supports

but para transit was off-loaded by klein as a municipal responsibility back in 1993.

So now that everything that is done on an out patient basis to save HUGE bucks.... the transportation to the out-patient facilities is not funded by the province in order to save the small dollars...

So, Alberta health Services depends on local property tax funded intitatives - to supply transportation to/FROM sites providing rehab services as part of Care in the Home.

your muncicpal tax dollar going to support provincial responsibilities.

the province gets the savings. the municipal taxpayer pays for the health-required transportation
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Old 12-01-2019, 05:14 PM   #3624
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They had my vote until they announced some policies that were no goes for me.
Which policies? is there any party where someone would agree with 100% of their policies?
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Old 12-01-2019, 05:30 PM   #3625
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That's a pretty small bonus for an executive role compared to the Private sector tbh.

On a $462k salary.


I should issue a correction, he is the Vice, not the pres.
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Old 12-01-2019, 05:37 PM   #3626
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You should see some of the things on their agenda . example, repeal bill 30 which is a workplace safety act, the first line in the rationale: "Bill 30 was implemented by the previous government.". They feel reporting to OH&S is apparently too burdensome to small businesses
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Old 12-01-2019, 07:17 PM   #3627
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Alberta: We're not Victorian London. Yet.
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Nah, that's not really the reason. It's because Albertans don't give a #### about centrist parties, and they certainly aren't going to vote for anyone who runs on a platform of raising taxes, and anyone who claims differently is fooling themselves.
The Alberta Conservatives under Stelmach and Redford were a centrist party.
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Old 12-02-2019, 11:17 AM   #3629
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Yeah, can't think of anything more brokerage and centrist than those two and they won larger majorities than Kenney.
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Old 12-02-2019, 01:47 PM   #3630
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Yeah, can't think of anything more brokerage and centrist than those two and they won larger majorities than Kenney.
Its a tight line to walk though. They became more centrist and then a party outflanked them to the right and they lost the only election they've ever lost in a million years.
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Old 12-02-2019, 02:26 PM   #3631
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If the unions pursue the general strike or wildcat strikes it will be interesting to see the public reaction. I think Kenney thinks he’s a little more invincible than he really is though. Sentiment isn’t great these days and while he received a strong mandate, he’s started to irritate a lot of people as well.
I would be interested in seeing how the general public sits with this too. Everyone wants great public services until it comes time to pay for them. The government needs to walk the line of managing the provinces finances, providing a decent quality of frontline service, and preventing incremental investment from leaving the province. During these times that's an impossible task.
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Old 12-02-2019, 03:24 PM   #3632
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In the mid-90s Klein cut government spending by more than 20 per cent across the board. Those were massive cuts, literally an order of magnitude larger than anything proposed by Kenney. And Klein's Conservatives were re-elected in '97 with 63 out of 83 seats.

Those were different times, with different attitudes around debt than we have today. But there's precedence in this province for a government sustaining its popularity after substantial cuts to public spending.
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I would be interested in seeing how the general public sits with this too. Everyone wants great public services until it comes time to pay for them. The government needs to walk the line of managing the provinces finances, providing a decent quality of frontline service, and preventing incremental investment from leaving the province. During these times that's an impossible task.
Hey I get the argument for balancing the debt. But one would think that prudent management of the province's finances would not involve blowing a 4.7B hole in the budget and then complaining how broke you are. But what do I know?
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In the mid-90s Klein cut government spending by more than 20 per cent across the board. Those were massive cuts, literally an order of magnitude larger than anything proposed by Kenney. And Klein's Conservatives were re-elected in '97 with 63 out of 83 seats.

Those were different times, with different attitudes around debt than we have today. But there's precedence in this province for a government sustaining its popularity after substantial cuts to public spending.
I would say personally I'm not necessarily opposed to cuts (I think AB spends too much and taxes too little for our new royalty income reality).

However, I think the Kenney cuts have been done incompetently. The school boards should have had their cuts done prior to the beginning of the school year. They budget by the school year, and while I don't think CBE is a paragon of good management, if they knew their budget upfront they would have done the cuts at a more logical time.
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[QUOTE=bizaro86;7295629]I would say personally I'm not necessarily opposed to cuts (I think AB spends too much and taxes too little for our new royalty income reality).

However, I think the Kenney cuts have been done incompetently.

I agree.
You would think none of them had ever been in office before- maybe being mean now so they can be nice later....
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Old 12-02-2019, 05:45 PM   #3636
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You know, if you read the news at all, I have to wonder what would inspire people to move here. O+G continues it’s cuts, tech sector not looking positive, provincial service line cuts, I hear yet again Municipal cuts are coming.

My personal role continues to be up in the air, it’s paralyzing.

Is there any industry in Alberta experiencing growth, or that has a positive outlook? There does come a time when Starbucks or bar employment isn’t worth sticking it out for.
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I think instead of cutting nurses they should cut from the blue building on Southport. That office is full and I guarantee that most people in there are making 100k+ doing bureaucratic jobs. Cut that building to the bones and spare front line staff.
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I think instead of cutting nurses they should cut from the blue building on Southport. That office is full and I guarantee that most people in there are making 100k+ doing bureaucratic jobs. Cut that building to the bones and spare front line staff.
Just to note your government doesn’t get to decide which jobs get cut. Nobody can deny there is a lot of bloat in many public services. The people in charge of each service decide where the jobs get axed when the funding gets cut.
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I think instead of cutting nurses they should cut from the blue building on Southport. That office is full and I guarantee that most people in there are making 100k+ doing bureaucratic jobs. Cut that building to the bones and spare front line staff.
I already mentioned this in this thread, but I was offered a job at that blue building on Southport for over 20% less than I ended up accepting in the private sector.

That job also had no bonus, had to pay for expensive parking considering you weren't downtown, and came with a pay freeze for 4 years right out of the gate.
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Just to note your government doesn’t get to decide which jobs get cut. Nobody can deny there is a lot of bloat in many public services. The people in charge of each service decide where the jobs get axed when the funding gets cut.
Yeah, but I am guessing the administrators are more likely to protect the admin jobs.
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