Draft Poll: June 11th Who would you pick?

[Tkachukwagon]

If the Flames do trade down, I hope they target the Red Wings picks (#23 from Washington in the Mantha trade and #38). Might be able to pick up two of Coronato / Pastujov / Stankoven / Raty in that range of picks.

[Tkachukwagon]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

If the Flames do trade down, I hope they target the Red Wings picks (#23 from Washington in the Mantha trade and #38). Might be able to pick up two of Coronato / Pastujov / Stankoven / Raty in that range of picks.

The Red Wings also have #48 from the Rangers (Marc Staal trade) if the #38 pick is too rich.

[powderjunkie]

I know nothing about these players so I won't vote. But Cole Sillinger has the best name, and I bet he does the opposite of his dad and plays 1000 games for the team that drafts him.

[Buff]

I know nothing of these players other than what I've read here on CP. What I've read about Lysell is limited to this thread.

All I'm hearing is he is fast and we need speed. Anything more about Lysell? Remember Rico Fata was fast too.

[bigrangy]

With those guys still available:

McTavish
Sillinger
Lucius
Lysell
Either goalie
Coronato
Raty

But I have really no idea.

[Monahammer]

I think Sillinger has a chance to be the best forward from this draft. Mactavish second. The others all have notable flaws that are, imo, harder to project. Lysell is an interesting one but offensive upside remains questionable at NHL level.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Do you mean don't trade it out right? I'd agree with that to some degree.

But don't trade down? If anything this poll and grouping shows that is likely the play if there's a team two to four spots back that would offer up a second.

I'd be fine with Lucius and a second for example.

Since centres are such an important piece of the puzzle is it worth it to give up a pick and move up a couple of spots to secure Sillinger or even go after Johnson?

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I think Sillinger has a chance to be the best forward from this draft. Mactavish second. The others all have notable flaws that are, imo, harder to project. Lysell is an interesting one but offensive upside remains questionable at NHL level.

I am starting to zone in on Sillinger. He is the guy I want.

[Snuffleupagus]

Apparently the flames took extra looks at Xavier Bourgault, his stats look good but I never heard of him.

Edit: just saw Mckenzie has him ranked 17th. hmmm!

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

Does not sound like the goalie will be around at 12, but if Wallstedt were available, I'd sure hope the Flames took him. Time to draft and develop a franchise goalie.
Have the 3 years of ELC line up with the last 3 years of Markstrom's contract. One year as backup, one year as 1A/1B, and last year having Markstrom be his backup.

If there was some decent odds he would turn into a franchise goalie, sure.

But any goalie drafted is pretty much a crap shoot.


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[Teroy]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Apparently the flames took extra looks at Xavier Bourgault, his stats look good but I never heard of him.

Edit: just saw Mckenzie has him ranked 17th. hmmm!

https://smahtscouting.com/2021/03/01...ier-bourgault/

[dammage79]

I hope the Flame Flames are taking lots of looks at all the potential 1st and 2nd rounders. If there's one thing the Flames scouting staff are good at is nailing their list.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I think Sillinger has a chance to be the best forward from this draft. Mactavish second. The others all have notable flaws that are, imo, harder to project. Lysell is an interesting one but offensive upside remains questionable at NHL level.

His career blossomed on the island. Wasn't it 12 or 13 teams he played for?

[memphusk]

Wow. He had 644 points also. Thats a true Journeyman.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Buff

I know nothing of these players other than what I've read here on CP. What I've read about Lysell is limited to this thread.

All I'm hearing is he is fast and we need speed. Anything more about Lysell? Remember Rico Fata was fast too.

Page 45 of the Draft thread. I did a write-up.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Teroy

https://smahtscouting.com/2021/03/01...ier-bourgault/

"In addition to Gallagher, Cam Atkinson of the Columbus Blue Jackets is another solid comparable for Bourgault."

I'd take that!

NHL's draft preview has him 11th

"11. (22) Xavier Bourgault (6-0, 172), C, Shawinigan (QMJHL) -- Bourgault is a dynamic offensive player who is relentless in his puck pursuit. The 18-year-old is third on Shawinigan with 40 points (20 goals, 20 assists) and is second with seven power-play goals in 29 games in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League this season."

top-32-prospects-for-2021-nhl-draft

He ticks a lot of boxes including being a R-shot

[Jiri Hrdina]

I continue to look at "dropping" scenarios.
For me there is fairly clear top 9, this is support by Bingo's work.

The candidates to drop to Calgary
- Simon Edvinnson
- Dylan Guenther
- Kent Johnson
- Jesper Wallstedt

I'm not particularly keen on using the pick on a goalie but any of those other 3 would be huge value.

Which means you need
- Someone to take the goalie in the top 11
- Two other teams to take players outside the rest of the top 8.

So where I see that potentially happening.
- CBJ picks #5 and is always a wild card, though at #5 perhaps less likely of a surprise
- I can see Mason McTavish or Fabian Lysell moving into the top 9 based on some of their attributes that could be very attractive to a team.

But then you also need the teams at 10 and 11 to pass on the dropper.

So an example would be something like this:

1. Buffalo Sabres - Power

2. Seattle Kraken - Beniers

3. Anaheim Ducks - Eklund

4. New Jersey Devils - Hughes

5. Columbus Blue Jackets - Lysell (surprise #1)

6. Detroit Red Wings - Wallstedt (goalie goes)

7. San Jose Sharks - Johnson

8. Los Angeles Kings - Clarke

9. Vancouver Canucks - McTavish

10. Ottawa Senators - Edvinsson

11. Chicago Blackhawks - Sillinger

12. Calgary - Guenther

I think that's the type of scenario we'd be looking at to have someone drop. Of course LW is also the thing the Flames arguably don't need but that would be great value.

Alternative that has the Dman drop:

1. Buffalo Sabres - Power

2. Seattle Kraken - Beniers

3. Anaheim Ducks - Eklund

4. New Jersey Devils - Hughes

5. Columbus Blue Jackets - Wallstedt

6. Detroit Red Wings - Lysell

7. San Jose Sharks - Guenther

8. Los Angeles Kings - Clarke

9. Vancouver Canucks - McTavish

10. Ottawa Senators - Sillinger

11. Chicago Blackhawks - Johnson

12. Calgary - Edvinsson

[jjgallow]

This has been hinted at here before, but in the game of hockey there are goalies, defencemen, and forwards.

This list only has forwards for some unexplained reason.

This draft is goalie and defenceman heavy.


We ideally want to take one of the top 4-5 D (whoever drops), or Wallstedt.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Teroy

https://smahtscouting.com/2021/03/01...ier-bourgault/

Bourgault has major skating issues, based on the write-up.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Page 45 of the Draft thread. I did a write-up.

Sandman, if it isn’t too much trouble, would you post an alphabetized last of players you have written-up and the corresponding page numbers. I’d like to follow along on draft day.