06-11-2021, 09:05 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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20/21 Jack Adams finalists. Brind'Amour, Evason, Quenneville. Winner: Brind'Amour
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06-11-2021, 09:34 AM
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#2
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Franchise Player
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Coach Q.
Everyone loves the Florida story this year.
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06-11-2021, 10:34 AM
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#3
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Location: Vancouver
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I'm going with Brind'Amour, then Evason. Nothing against Quenneville, but Florida actually looks like a pretty stacked team to me. The fact it all came together this year is great, but it kind of clouds the fact they they were embarrassingly underachieving before now.
Carolina and Minnesota both seem to me to be greater than the sum of their parts or have players that produced beyond what should normally be expected, which suggests coaching is a bigger part of the equation. Florida did what they should have.
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06-11-2021, 11:35 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Evason for me
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06-11-2021, 11:38 AM
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#5
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First Line Centre
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Surprised to see no Trotz
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06-11-2021, 11:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BagoPucks
Surprised to see no Trotz
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came to post this exact point.
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06-11-2021, 12:02 PM
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#7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BagoPucks
Surprised to see no Trotz
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I'm not. The Jack Adams is not the award for the best coach. It's the award for the team the media didn't expect to be very good, that ended up being very good, and because the media can't possibly have misjudged the quality of the team, the only explanation is that the coach got more out of that group of players than they could have accomplished without such great coaching. It's the "outperformed expectations" trophy.
That was the Islanders a couple of years ago, but no one is surprised by who the Islanders are anymore.
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06-11-2021, 12:22 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I'm going with Brind'Amour, then Evason. Nothing against Quenneville, but Florida actually looks like a pretty stacked team to me. The fact it all came together this year is great, but it kind of clouds the fact they they were embarrassingly underachieving before now.
Carolina and Minnesota both seem to me to be greater than the sum of their parts or have players that produced beyond what should normally be expected, which suggests coaching is a bigger part of the equation. Florida did what they should have.
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I don't know. How many people saw Weegar doubling his best season and becoming a top-pair defender, or Forsling stepping up the way he did, or Wennberg scoring 17 goals after totalling that in his past three seasons combined, or Verhaege becoming a top=six player. Heck, Ekblad was starting to become a disappointment before being fantastic this season.
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06-11-2021, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
I'm not. The Jack Adams is not the award for the best coach. It's the award for the team the media didn't expect to be very good, that ended up being very good, and because the media can't possibly have misjudged the quality of the team, the only explanation is that the coach got more out of that group of players than they could have accomplished without such great coaching. It's the "outperformed expectations" trophy.
That was the Islanders a couple of years ago, but no one is surprised by who the Islanders are anymore.
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Not that I disagree with anything you are saying, as you are 100% correct in how this award is typically being handed out, however, in this case, why is Brindamour a nominee. Canes have proven they have a strong team for a few years now, and they continued that throughout this season again.
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06-11-2021, 04:32 PM
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#10
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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^^ I actually thought that, for a change, all three coaches were not "coahed a team that is terrible but overachieved". I would have picked all 3 teams to make the POs prior to the season.
Q won it before otherwise I'd have probably picked him on the "he deserves it after all these years" kind of vote that Trotz got in 2016.
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06-13-2021, 12:56 PM
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#11
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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The team that surprised me the most was Minnesota, so I'd award it to Evason
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06-17-2021, 06:17 PM
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#12
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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06-17-2021, 10:54 PM
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#13
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Self Imposed Retirement
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Calgary
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Good for Rod Brind'Amour, quite an achievement to go with his Stanley Cup win. In Carolina of all places too.
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06-18-2021, 11:10 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Why did Dave Tippett (Oilers) get more votes than Trotz (Islanders)...
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06-18-2021, 11:14 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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That was the order I figured, but surprised it wasn’t closer between 1 and 2.
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06-18-2021, 11:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Why did Dave Tippett (Oilers) get more votes than Trotz (Islanders)...
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Edmonton Media
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06-19-2021, 05:23 AM
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#17
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Really surprised Quenneville didn’t win. Not that Brind’Amour isn’t a good choice too. Just thought Q was the obvious pick.
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06-19-2021, 06:09 AM
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#18
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Franchise Player
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I missed something clearly, is the awards show happening this year? Has it been done away with entirely?
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06-21-2021, 01:48 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finger Cookin
I missed something clearly, is the awards show happening this year? Has it been done away with entirely?
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No award show happening, and we can only pray it remains that way.
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