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Old 06-11-2021, 09:05 AM   #1
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Old 06-11-2021, 09:34 AM   #2
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Coach Q.

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I'm going with Brind'Amour, then Evason. Nothing against Quenneville, but Florida actually looks like a pretty stacked team to me. The fact it all came together this year is great, but it kind of clouds the fact they they were embarrassingly underachieving before now.

Carolina and Minnesota both seem to me to be greater than the sum of their parts or have players that produced beyond what should normally be expected, which suggests coaching is a bigger part of the equation. Florida did what they should have.
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Old 06-11-2021, 11:38 AM   #5
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came to post this exact point.
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I'm not. The Jack Adams is not the award for the best coach. It's the award for the team the media didn't expect to be very good, that ended up being very good, and because the media can't possibly have misjudged the quality of the team, the only explanation is that the coach got more out of that group of players than they could have accomplished without such great coaching. It's the "outperformed expectations" trophy.

That was the Islanders a couple of years ago, but no one is surprised by who the Islanders are anymore.
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I'm going with Brind'Amour, then Evason. Nothing against Quenneville, but Florida actually looks like a pretty stacked team to me. The fact it all came together this year is great, but it kind of clouds the fact they they were embarrassingly underachieving before now.

Carolina and Minnesota both seem to me to be greater than the sum of their parts or have players that produced beyond what should normally be expected, which suggests coaching is a bigger part of the equation. Florida did what they should have.

I don't know. How many people saw Weegar doubling his best season and becoming a top-pair defender, or Forsling stepping up the way he did, or Wennberg scoring 17 goals after totalling that in his past three seasons combined, or Verhaege becoming a top=six player. Heck, Ekblad was starting to become a disappointment before being fantastic this season.
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I'm not. The Jack Adams is not the award for the best coach. It's the award for the team the media didn't expect to be very good, that ended up being very good, and because the media can't possibly have misjudged the quality of the team, the only explanation is that the coach got more out of that group of players than they could have accomplished without such great coaching. It's the "outperformed expectations" trophy.

That was the Islanders a couple of years ago, but no one is surprised by who the Islanders are anymore.
Not that I disagree with anything you are saying, as you are 100% correct in how this award is typically being handed out, however, in this case, why is Brindamour a nominee. Canes have proven they have a strong team for a few years now, and they continued that throughout this season again.
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^^ I actually thought that, for a change, all three coaches were not "coahed a team that is terrible but overachieved". I would have picked all 3 teams to make the POs prior to the season.

Q won it before otherwise I'd have probably picked him on the "he deserves it after all these years" kind of vote that Trotz got in 2016.
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The team that surprised me the most was Minnesota, so I'd award it to Evason
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Old 06-17-2021, 06:17 PM   #12
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Good for Rod Brind'Amour, quite an achievement to go with his Stanley Cup win. In Carolina of all places too.
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Why did Dave Tippett (Oilers) get more votes than Trotz (Islanders)...
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That was the order I figured, but surprised it wasn’t closer between 1 and 2.
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Why did Dave Tippett (Oilers) get more votes than Trotz (Islanders)...
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Really surprised Quenneville didn’t win. Not that Brind’Amour isn’t a good choice too. Just thought Q was the obvious pick.
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I missed something clearly, is the awards show happening this year? Has it been done away with entirely?
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I missed something clearly, is the awards show happening this year? Has it been done away with entirely?
No award show happening, and we can only pray it remains that way.
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