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Old 06-11-2021, 03:13 PM   #1021
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Another new one :
https://www.si.com/hockey/news/2021-...draft-rankings

McTavish at 9 in this one
That's an update!

No change in his top ten, but then he makes a few changes in the teens ... plus it's 100 picks now.

thanks Jiri
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Old 06-11-2021, 03:24 PM   #1022
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updated again ...

Interesting to see Wallstedt come back to the Flames group. Meanwhile a pretty good sized gap showing at pick 15 now.

Jesper Wallstedt G #SHL 7 4 12 11 13 10 10 17 8 4 9 6 13 9 9 9.47
Fabian Lysell RW #SHL 9 10 3 11 27 14 12 9 10 5 9 27 7 7 2 11 10.93
Cole Sillinger C #USHL 10 13 14 15 13 10 13 18 16 13 14 17 12 14 11 13 13.73
Chaz Lucius C #USDP 12 12 16 10 10 16 9 13 19 25 6 15 18 16 12 12 13.93
Aatu Raty C #Liiga 3 19 11 14 20 12 20 11 3 9 12 29 20 8 15 19 14.80
Carson Lambos D #U20 SM-sarja 11 22 28 18 17 5 15 20 2 15 12 30 12 13 14 15.93
Mason Mctavish C #SL 2 15 29 9 9 9 11 14 21 32 16 14 5 20 25 10 15.93
Nikita Chibrikov LW/RW #KHL 4 21 24 20 14 19 22 27 11 16 23 24 26 20 20.54
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Old 06-11-2021, 03:26 PM   #1023
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Owen Power announced that he is leaning towards heading back to college next season.

This of course leads to speculation that he is hoping Buffalo will pass on him.
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That was January ... he updated his list in March.
No I think shutout is right. Had him at 17th in January, 25th in March and now 7th as of June 9th. It mentions he jumped into the top 10 because of his work at the U18 tournament which happened in May. If you scroll down the main page it has his latest rankings.
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Old 06-11-2021, 03:34 PM   #1025
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Owen Power announced that he is leaning towards heading back to college next season.

This of course leads to speculation that he is hoping Buffalo will pass on him.
Buffalo fans just can't catch a break...
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Old 06-11-2021, 03:45 PM   #1026
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No I think shutout is right. Had him at 17th in January, 25th in March and now 7th as of June 9th. It mentions he jumped into the top 10 because of his work at the U18 tournament which happened in May. If you scroll down the main page it has his latest rankings.
I'll have a look! Thanks ... clearly want the newest one in all cases
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Old 06-11-2021, 03:47 PM   #1027
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Buffalo fans just can't catch a break...
Would you go to Buffalo if you had a choice? When your franchise player is Jack Eichel, you aren't going places. Teams that have players who believe in team play over individual glory, and have achieved success, will always attract players over teams who have "super star" talent but no success. The Sabres such because their franchise player sucks. Supporting cast is only a good as the stars leading it.
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Would you go to Buffalo if you had a choice? When your franchise player is Jack Eichel, you aren't going places. Teams that have players who believe in team play over individual glory, and have achieved success, will always attract players over teams who have "super star" talent but no success. The Sabres such because their franchise player sucks. Supporting cast is only a good as the stars leading it.
Just...no.

The Sabres suck because they spend $15M on Skinner and Okposo. The Sabres suck because they can't hire a good coach. The Sabres suck because they don't have a goalie that can play more than 30 games.

The Sabres do not suck because they have an elite centre.
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I just don't see Power as the clear cut #1. Clarke, Edvinsson. Beniers, Hughes, Eklund can all go #1 IMO.
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Just...no.

The Sabres suck because they spend $15M on Skinner and Okposo. The Sabres suck because they can't hire a good coach. The Sabres suck because they don't have a goalie that can play more than 30 games.

The Sabres do not suck because they have an elite centre.
Yeah Eichel can only do so much.

Over the last three seasons at 5v5:

With Eichel: Goals For - 127, Goals Against - 125, +2, 50.40%

Without Eichel: Goals For - 235, Goals Against - 314, -79, 42.8%

There isn't much he can do when he's not on the ice to overcome that.
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Old 06-11-2021, 04:04 PM   #1031
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Updated again.

Thanks guys.

10 Fabian Lysell RW #SHL 9 10 3 11 27 14 12 9 10 5 9 27 7 7 5 11 11.13
11 Cole Sillinger C #USHL 10 13 14 15 13 10 13 18 16 13 14 17 12 14 12 13 13.80
12 Chaz Lucius C #USDP 12 12 16 10 10 16 9 13 19 25 6 15 18 16 13 12 14.00
13 Mason Mctavish C #SL 2 15 29 9 9 9 11 14 21 32 16 14 5 20 7 10 14.73
14 Aatu Raty C #Liiga 3 19 11 14 20 12 20 11 3 9 12 29 20 8 28 19 15.67
15 Carson Lambos D #U20 SM-sarja 11 22 28 18 17 5 15 20 2 15 12 30 12 25 14 16.79

McTavish up to 13.
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Can I interest anyone in a Zachary Bolduc deep dive? Over 3000 words, five charts, and 21 clips, so settle in with a beverage of your choice.

https://nhlentrydraft.com/news/2021-...achary-bolduc/
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updated again ...

Interesting to see Wallstedt come back to the Flames group. Meanwhile a pretty good sized gap showing at pick 15 now.

Jesper Wallstedt G #SHL 7 4 12 11 13 10 10 17 8 4 9 6 13 9 9 9.47
Fabian Lysell RW #SHL 9 10 3 11 27 14 12 9 10 5 9 27 7 7 2 11 10.93
Cole Sillinger C #USHL 10 13 14 15 13 10 13 18 16 13 14 17 12 14 11 13 13.73
Chaz Lucius C #USDP 12 12 16 10 10 16 9 13 19 25 6 15 18 16 12 12 13.93
Aatu Raty C #Liiga 3 19 11 14 20 12 20 11 3 9 12 29 20 8 15 19 14.80
Carson Lambos D #U20 SM-sarja 11 22 28 18 17 5 15 20 2 15 12 30 12 13 14 15.93
Mason Mctavish C #SL 2 15 29 9 9 9 11 14 21 32 16 14 5 20 25 10 15.93
Nikita Chibrikov LW/RW #KHL 4 21 24 20 14 19 22 27 11 16 23 24 26 20 20.54
I would very much love to see the Flames draft Wallstedt.


Probably the very best possible way to start off an inevitable rebuild.

Any of the top 5 D would be great too, if they drop
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Old 06-13-2021, 06:47 AM   #1034
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Sandman, if it isn’t too much trouble, would you post an alphabetized list of players you have written up and their corresponding page number in the thread, closer to draft day. It would provide a great tool for those of us who want to follow along as the Flames make their picks.
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Sandman, if it isn’t too much trouble, would you post an alphabetized list of players you have written up and their corresponding page number in the thread, closer to draft day. It would provide a great tool for those of us who want to follow along as the Flames make their picks.
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If you didn't know Buffalo's history but saw a roster with Eichel, Dahlin, Power, Reinhart, Cozens, Olofsson, Quinn, Mittelstadt, Ristolainen, you'd figure that would be an exciting up and coming team.
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Owen Power announced that he is leaning towards heading back to college next season.

This of course leads to speculation that he is hoping Buffalo will pass on him.
Nah he’s from the GTA… that doesn’t really seem like the reason. As much as we like to make fun of Buffalo.

College players say this often, contracts can make them change their minds.
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Old 06-13-2021, 09:26 PM   #1038
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Here is the PDF as of today

https://www.calgarypuck.com/wp-conte...-Consensus.pdf

Brief explanation:

Sorted by "Average" then "Deviation"
Two shaded Central Scouting ranks not included in the average

Final three columns are the ranking moves if you take out the best and worst ranking for each player.

A good example is Nikita Chibrikov. He has an 11 that is an outlier ... if you remove the best and the worst his average falls from 20.50 to 20.8 and he drops two spots.

For Flames specific, if you look at the Adjusted Rank Lucius moves past Sillinger as Lucius has a 25 in his ranking.
LOL at Dobber, ranks Power at #9 behind three other D, either he's sniffing something or Owen pissed in his cornflakes.
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Old 06-14-2021, 01:51 AM   #1039
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Here's a few quick reads about some players I like:

LHD David Gucciardi,5'11"161lbs (Waterloo,USHL): 29gp/7g/10a/17pts,51PIM-15th in p/gp among D in the USHL. Talented offensive-minded defenseman is one of the older players in the draft, with an October birthday. Solid toolkit with great instincts and vision, but also tough and mean. Great 4-directional skater with solid edges is strong in puck possession, and pushes the pace and the play towards the opponents goal. Makes nice, clean, crisp passes, and owns a good shot with a great release. Despite his size, he's capable of winning board battles with his aggression, and competitive fire. Uses good deception in his stick and his body language to manipulate attackers. Has very good gap control, and pressures opponents into mistakes. Gucciardi has shown a rather mediocre defensive game, but it is said that he's learned a much more responsible style since he was traded to Waterloo, from Youngstown. He can be pushed into mistakes and giveaways under pressure, but he will have time to develop his game starting next year at Michigan State. Right now, he game is on the Raw side, but he has tons of potential, and offensive upside. 4th/5th rounder. I like this kid.

C/LW Manix Landry,5'11"180lbs (Gatineau, QMJHL): 29gp/10g/13a/23pts. The son Eric Landry was made Captain of Gatineau at the age of 17, after a 2019-20 season where he scored 40pts in 59 games-his point total should be much higher this year, but his team lost some talent in the off-season. I love this kid-plays harder than the vast majority of kids his age-forechecks and backchecks relentlessly. Pesky, in-your-face player smothers the opposition's best players-suppresses offense at elite levels, and creates offense. Effortless skater already has NHL top speed, and a solid, all-around game. Outcompetes others, and plays with intensity and physicality without taking penalties. This is the player you hate, but would love to have on your team. Landry needs to develop more offense, but in my opinion-his numbers would be better if he had more talent to work with. He could develop into a two-way, respected defensive specialist in the NHL. Hope the Flames are watching him closely. 3rd/4th rounder.

C Tyson Kozak,5'11"161lbs (Portland,WHL): 18gp/3g/8a/11pts,13PIM. Athletic, complete 200-ft center has a strong sense of where to be situationally, and positionally. Strong skater, always involved, and on the right side of the puck. Not the most skilled guy, but can get the puck to high danger consistently, and fights for time and space to make himself an available option. Great stickwork and sound positioning to eliminate high-danger opportunities for the opposition. He has a physical side, and can play a finesse or grinding style. Good deception in his stride-can change direction or speed to mislead attackers. Plays both sides of special teams, but PK is more his specialty. Kozak needs work on his shot-has to get harder. His offense needs time to develop as well-he's athletic, but not the most skilled. He'll be a later round pick, either 6th/7th round.

LW Mikey Milne,5'11"183lbs (Winnipeg,WHL): 14gp/6g/6a/12pts. Milne is one of the oldest players in the draft, and is a gritty, pest-type. Much of his offensive success has been attributed to playing with hotshot rookies Connor Geekie and Zach Benson, but I don't completely buy that, as last year he had 33pts in 53 games playing without those two, and playing down the lineup in favour of older players. Milne is however, a supplemental player, but can open up the ice for more skilled teammates. Even though he doesn't possess the greatest skill, he can do good things in high-danger with his work ethic and battle level. Good, not elite skater. Physical, and wins battles, does the dirty work for his line, and gets the puck to high danger. Competes in all 3 zones. Milne needs time to develop his skills and get bigger and stronger, and getting faster is a must. He will be selected in the later rounds, if he gets selected at all.

RW Matt Maggio,5'10"170lbs (SK Lejon, HockeyEttan): With no OHL, Maggio went overseas to play in one of Sweden's men's league-the third tier HockeyEttan, where he aquitted himself quite well, with 3g/8a/11pts,20PIM in 19 games-18th in scoring for players under 19. Maggio reads the offensive side of the game quite well, and competes in all 3 zones. Maggio brings a great slot presence-he generates shots, makes tips, jumps on rebounds, and blocks the goalie. Good in puck possession-makes good, clean entries, and challenges and controls on the defensive side of the transition. Nice speed, with good edges, and his puck-control is one of the pillars of his game-he can stickhandle quite well, and has excellent puck protection. Good shot and release, although he needs to continue to work on it. Pays attention to his own zone-challenges opponents, forces turnovers, and intercepts plays with his active stick and positioning. Maggio still needs to work on his defensive game, and he needs to get stronger. My guess would be 6th round.

LW Zack Stringer,6'1"165lbs (Lethbridge,WHL): 23gp/5g/9a/14pts. Stringer's final totals were disappointing, considering he put up 11g/23a/34pts in 48 games in 2019-20. I think it's largely because Lethbridge went from an 8th place-team last year to a 15th place-team this year, and lost a ton of talent in the process. Stringer is a competitive, power-forward that hits hard all over the ice, and plays a relentless checking game. He has a high IQ, and reads the play well in all three zones. Creates space for himself and his teammates. Strong net-front presence is hard to move, and has a hard wrister with a quick release. While Stringer plays a heavy game, he needs to fill out and get stronger-and he will be scary. At this point, his skating is average at best, and needs plenty of work. He tends to stickhandle in front, which makes him prone to turnovers, so he needs to fix it, and work on his puck protection. Will be taken in 6th/7th round, if at all.
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Old 06-14-2021, 02:37 AM   #1040
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Here's another target for the flames, Not at 12 but if they move a few spots don't be shocked if this is their guy.

Zachary L’Heureux, Halifax
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