Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community
Old 07-01-2019, 11:01 AM   #41
1qqaaz
Franchise Player
 
1qqaaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9 View Post
I don’t understand why people are happy this happened. (Rumoured nix)

Great cap hit
Good term
Plays with an edge
Center depth, easily slots in as 2C
50-60 pts easily obtainable
Get rid of Brodie giving room for Andersson to move up

Sure his antics have been questionable at times but he’s make the flames better instantly.
Too bad if true, didn’t specifically say he said no to CGY but I think it’s assumed.

It’s funny all these Toronto players after playing there seem to never want to go to another Canadian team
I don't know what to think.
I'm guessing Brodie would have gone the other way, but what else? Brodie alone wouldn't get it done.

I would not want to trade Brodie + 2020 1st or Brodie + Bennett.

Plus, there's the mindset which states: "If you don't want to be here, then we're happy you're not here." Fans don't want players with that mindset on their team.
1qqaaz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 11:01 AM   #42
Deegee
First Line Centre
 
Deegee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edmonton, AB
Exp:
Default

Kadri is exactly the type of player I like. Gritty, plays on the edge, has some offensive talent, and a good contract.

I have no idea why people wouldn't want him around.

I am wondering if the cost to the Flames was just too expensive.
Deegee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 11:02 AM   #43
Flash Walken
Lifetime Suspension
 
Flash Walken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz View Post
I don't know what to think.
I'm guessing Brodie would have gone the other way, but what else? Brodie alone wouldn't get it done.

I would not want to trade Brodie + 2020 1st or Brodie + Bennett.

Plus, there's the mindset which states: "If you don't want to be here, then we're happy you're not here." Fans don't want players with that mindset on their team.
I think it would've been hamonic.
Flash Walken is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 11:02 AM   #44
ComixZone
Franchise Player
 
ComixZone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz View Post
I don't know what to think.
I'm guessing Brodie would have gone the other way, but what else? Brodie alone wouldn't get it done.

I would not want to trade Brodie + 2020 1st or Brodie + Bennett.

Plus, there's the mindset which states: "If you don't want to be here, then we're happy you're not here." Fans don't want players with that mindset on their team.
I believe you’re undervaluing Brodie.
ComixZone is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ComixZone For This Useful Post:
Old 07-01-2019, 11:02 AM   #45
AC
Resident Videologist
 
AC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit View Post
Very possible, we've already seen it in the last week.

It might not even have Calgary on it. They never said that, people are just guessing it meant he specifically said no to Calgary.
There isn't even any report he was asked. Just spitballing that a Brodie for Kadri swap could make sense for both teams, like many here have said.

Couple instances of the game telephone later and we have "Kadri refuses trade to Calgary".
AC is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to AC For This Useful Post:
Old 07-01-2019, 11:03 AM   #46
Barca
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9 View Post
I don’t understand why people are happy this happened. (Rumoured nix)

Great cap hit
Good term
Plays with an edge
Center depth, easily slots in as 2C
50-60 pts easily obtainable
Get rid of Brodie giving room for Andersson to move up

Sure his antics have been questionable at times but he’d make the flames better instantly.
Too bad if true, didn’t specifically say he said no to CGY but I think it’s assumed.

It’s funny all these Toronto players after playing there seem to never want to go to another Canadian team
Like who? Only Kadri comes to comes to mind in recent history.
Barca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 11:04 AM   #47
topfiverecords
Franchise Player
 
topfiverecords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague View Post
Who the heck was going back, is my question.
No one. Treliving asked Dubas if he'd trade Kadri. Dubas said, you're on Kadri's no trade list. End of call.
topfiverecords is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 11:04 AM   #48
Rando
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords View Post
No one. Treliving asked Dubas if he'd trade Kadri. Dubas said, you're on Kadri's no trade list. End of call.
No, probably not...
Rando is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Rando For This Useful Post:
Old 07-01-2019, 11:06 AM   #49
1qqaaz
Franchise Player
 
1qqaaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone View Post
I believe you’re undervaluing Brodie.
I think Brodie on his own is probably close in value, but Brodie only has 1 year left.

Term is quite important in determining value. Kadri has twice the term.

And I don't think it makes much sense to trade Hamonic (although his lower cap hit makes more sense for the Leafs). He actually wants to be in Calgary and will probably re-sign when his contract finishes.
1qqaaz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 11:07 AM   #50
Inferno
Franchise Player
 
Inferno's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9 View Post
I don’t understand why people are happy this happened. (Rumoured nix)
Think of all the stupid things he's done and imagine him doing that playing for the Flames in an important game and ending up costing them. I'd rather not take the chance with an idiot like that.
Inferno is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 11:08 AM   #51
Textcritic
Acerbic Cyberbully
 
Textcritic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords View Post
No one. Treliving asked Dubas if he'd trade Kadri. Dubas said, you're on Kadri's no trade list. End of call.
That's not how GMing works.
__________________
Dealing with Everything from Dead Sea Scrolls to Red C Trolls

Quote:
Originally Posted by woob
"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
"The Lying Pen of Scribes" Ancient Manuscript Forgeries Project
Textcritic is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Textcritic For This Useful Post:
Old 07-01-2019, 11:08 AM   #52
Royle9
First Line Centre
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barca View Post
Like who? Only Kadri comes to comes to mind in recent history.
The Hambugler Mr.Kessel
Royle9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 11:08 AM   #53
Flash Walken
Lifetime Suspension
 
Flash Walken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz View Post
I think Brodie on his own is probably close in value, but Brodie only has 1 year left.

Term is quite important in determining value. Kadri has twice the term.

And I don't think it makes much sense to trade Hamonic (although his lower cap hit makes more sense for the Leafs). He actually wants to be in Calgary and will probably re-sign when his contract finishes.
Leafs are looking to drop cap so a straight swap doesn't help them as much as an extra million between Brodie/hamonic.

Hamonic is better, so has more value.

Leafs were very much interested in hamonic before he was dealt to Calgary.

Hamonic rumours were out there but all of a sudden dried up, almost as if the rumoured deal was taken off the table.
Flash Walken is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 11:09 AM   #54
topfiverecords
Franchise Player
 
topfiverecords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rando View Post
No, probably not...
Yes, probably yes.
topfiverecords is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 11:11 AM   #55
topfiverecords
Franchise Player
 
topfiverecords's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic View Post
That's not how GMing works.
Thanks for the insight. Glad you're here to contradict every time I post.
topfiverecords is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to topfiverecords For This Useful Post:
Old 07-01-2019, 11:14 AM   #56
Rando
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords View Post
Yes, probably yes.
No, 100% not.

NTC's can be waived. If Treliving, or anyone, calls Dubas asking about a player with a NTC I'd imagine they talk to see what the return is, work out the framework of the deal than approach the player seeing if he'd waive.

GM's talk, GM's listen, they don't hang up just because of a NTC.
Rando is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Rando For This Useful Post:
Old 07-01-2019, 11:15 AM   #57
dammage79
Franchise Player
 
dammage79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Sucks because the idea behind the trade is great. Cement that center depth with Kadri and Backlund manning the middle 2 center spots.

I'm happy because I do not like the player. I think we can do the same trade with another team.
dammage79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 11:16 AM   #58
Rick M.
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9 View Post
The Hambugler Mr.Kessel
Now I have visions of a ham playing the bugle.
Rick M. is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Rick M. For This Useful Post:
Old 07-01-2019, 11:17 AM   #59
Textcritic
Acerbic Cyberbully
 
Textcritic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords View Post
Thanks for the insight. Glad you're here to contradict every time I post.
It's a complimentary service.
__________________
Dealing with Everything from Dead Sea Scrolls to Red C Trolls

Quote:
Originally Posted by woob
"...harem warfare? like all your wives dressup and go paintballing?"
"The Lying Pen of Scribes" Ancient Manuscript Forgeries Project
Textcritic is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Textcritic For This Useful Post:
Old 07-01-2019, 11:18 AM   #60
btimbit
Franchise Player
 
btimbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
Exp:
Default

Thanks for the title and first post edit sureloss. Nothing to get worked up over
btimbit is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:05 PM.

Calgary Flames
2023-24




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021