06-25-2021, 04:03 AM
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#14361
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Franchise Player
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This is so weird. Even in my first reply I said I would take Eichel over him (mostly age and position). Posting stats doesn't mean someone has a man crush lol.
But really, you're the one saying he might get 70 points, I never said he would get 90 (just that he was on that pace this season, again a fact). So shouldn't any bet revolve around him scoring under 70 and not over 90?
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06-25-2021, 06:59 AM
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#14362
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
This is so weird. Even in my first reply I said I would take Eichel over him (mostly age and position). Posting stats doesn't mean someone has a man crush lol.
But really, you're the one saying he might get 70 points, I never said he would get 90 (just that he was on that pace this season, again a fact). So shouldn't any bet revolve around him scoring under 70 and not over 90?
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I think the standard should be 50 points, which makes as much sense as 90 points.
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06-25-2021, 07:47 AM
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#14363
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Scoring Winger
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So I've noticed a lot of the suspected front runners for Eichel have lost interest in the past few weeks. The Rangers, Kings, Ducks and Blue Jackets seem to be less interested now. Could make things interesting for a potential deal with the Flames
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06-25-2021, 07:51 AM
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#14364
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames_F.T.W
So I've noticed a lot of the suspected front runners for Eichel have lost interest in the past few weeks. The Rangers, Kings, Ducks and Blue Jackets seem to be less interested now. Could make things interesting for a potential deal with the Flames
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Really depends on what the Flames doctors think about this neck issue. And then a risk and asset management debate and then thats even before they pick up the phone. This I going to take a crap ton of work to pull off for any team trying to get Eichel. Like more so than your standard negotiations.
Like can they ask Buffalo for permission to have their doctors look at him? Can they talk to Eichel?
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06-25-2021, 08:58 AM
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#14365
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Samonadreau
Doug Wilson is one of the worst managers in the NHL.
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They have played in 174 playoff games since he took over in 2003.
Final four in 2004, 2010, 2011, 2016, 2019. SCF in 2016.
Pretty impressive.
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06-25-2021, 08:59 AM
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#14366
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Really depends on what the Flames doctors think about this neck issue. And then a risk and asset management debate and then thats even before they pick up the phone. This I going to take a crap ton of work to pull off for any team trying to get Eichel. Like more so than your standard negotiations.
Like can they ask Buffalo for permission to have their doctors look at him? Can they talk to Eichel?
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Buffalo can give permission to Eichel to talk to anyone he likes.
Much like the Canes have told Hamilton and his agent to go seek a deal.
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06-25-2021, 11:06 AM
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#14367
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1408446065368387592
I wonder if he's hearing Monahan's name, as in Calgary is trying to trade him. Or if he's hearing Monahan's name, as in teams are inquiring about him.
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06-25-2021, 11:13 AM
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#14368
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
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I'm sure Dreger isn't just throwing mud at the wall but this is so vague it really isn't saying anything. It feels like it's based on everything everyone else has said... including Treliving.
Honestly, I feel Steinberg gives us more Flames insider information than Dreger.
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06-25-2021, 11:18 AM
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#14369
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Underperforming player could be moved from a Canadian team, more ground breaking reporting from our “insiders”.
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06-25-2021, 11:20 AM
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#14370
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Franchise Player
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These guys are there to fill air. There's always going to be multiple times more rumors and speculation than actual activity. But people love this stuff - so they are going to continue to put it out there.
Surprised there is always so much complaining. Do folks want to hear rumors or not?
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06-25-2021, 11:26 AM
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#14371
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
These guys are there to fill air. There's always going to be multiple times more rumors and speculation than actual activity. But people love this stuff - so they are going to continue to put it out there.
Surprised there is always so much complaining. Do folks want to hear rumors or not?
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People want to hear rumors but then want it to come true...which means it's not really a rumor but is more actual news.
Personally I want more rumors. 32 NHL GMs are having conversations daily about different players, draft picks, prospects, etc. and 99.9% of those discussions probably don't end up in an actual trade.
But I'd love to have inside knowledge of every single discussion, I find it fascinating.
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06-25-2021, 11:38 AM
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#14372
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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In my eyes, Dreger's statement is both speculation and a rumor. This is the speculation and rumor thread, so I thought it was worth posting. Even if he's saying what many would find to be obvious. Dreger is TSN's Hockey Insider, so he's just doing his job for the interest of the sport. He has predicted and announced hundreds of trades and signings, so do put a little more weight in his speculation that most others.
I kind of wish one of these insiders would "speculate" that the Flames are in the mix for Eichel. Because as far I know, no one has stated as such yet.
Last edited by 1qqaaz; 06-25-2021 at 11:41 AM.
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06-25-2021, 11:39 AM
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#14373
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
These guys are there to fill air. There's always going to be multiple times more rumors and speculation than actual activity. But people love this stuff - so they are going to continue to put it out there.
Surprised there is always so much complaining. Do folks want to hear rumors or not?
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My only complaint is when people ask for “real rumours”. I see no difference between this and half the trade ideas we see posted here.
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06-25-2021, 11:54 AM
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#14374
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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All the "insiders" missed Hakstol to Seattle.
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06-25-2021, 12:26 PM
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#14375
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Monahan plus 4 players for Eichel and 4 players.
It could happen, right? Leeman plus 4 for Gilmour plus 4?
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06-25-2021, 12:30 PM
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#14376
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan
All the "insiders" missed Hakstol to Seattle.
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Depends how you see it. The last 31 thoughts podcast, Friedman mentioned Tochett and another unknown had flown to Seattle for final interviews. He couldn't pin down who the unknown was since he wasn't a name that was being interviewed by others. That fits Hakstol's description. Aside from naming him he was right on timing and the unknown coach part.
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06-25-2021, 12:35 PM
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#14377
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_Chief
Depends how you see it. The last 31 thoughts podcast, Friedman mentioned Tochett and another unknown had flown to Seattle for final interviews. He couldn't pin down who the unknown was since he wasn't a name that was being interviewed by others. That fits Hakstol's description. Aside from naming him he was right on timing and the unknown coach part.
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I’d seen his name on a few lists. Not as a front runner mind you, but one of say 5-6 people.
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06-25-2021, 12:43 PM
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#14378
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunk Uncle
I feel Steinberg gives us more Flames insider information than Dreger.
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I doubt it, TSN & Sportsnet insiders are way more connected
In my opinion
I am sure the Fan960 personalities hear stuff but not to the same degree as Dreger, Friedman etc...
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06-25-2021, 12:49 PM
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#14379
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Uncle Chester
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Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
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In an article today about Wild trade partners, Michael Russo had this to say about Sean.
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Sean Monahan
At 26, the Flames center has two years left at $6.375 million. He’s a three-time 30-goal scorer and scored 82 points three seasons ago, but he’s coming off a couple down seasons, and the Wild didn’t seem very interested in him last offseason when word began to emerge that he could be had. He’s not exactly a line driver and, fair or not, there’s a perception out there in the hockey community that his character is a question mark.
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06-25-2021, 12:56 PM
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#14380
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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I find that "character" comment weird. Honestly. He seems to be super-fitness conscious, and seems willing to try to adapt his game to what coaches want... Is that just a mirage? I guess he could be a "bad apple" away from fans' eyes, but he seemed like a decent team guy, if low-key and unable to elevate...
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