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Old 12-17-2018, 09:04 PM   #61
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Dumb question....

Preface to dumb question: I moved to Calgary in 2008.

Who was the last 'good' mayor? Or has there been one?
What makes a good mayor?

People talk up Duerr a lot even though nothing got built (but taxes didn't rise), putting the city into a major infrastructure deficit heading into over a decade of boom times.

Bronco spent and spent to the point people got tired of him, but we got some major projects done.

Klein is Klein. Had a tough decade for the city but also had the focus of the Olympics to work with. Was popular enough to be a card-carrying Liberal to become a beloved PC premier.

Nenshi had to balance keeping up with infrastructure spending while not quite being as wild-west with it as Bronco was. Was probably the right mayor to have take over for the East Village transformation. People whine about spending on stuff like bike lanes ($7M) and the Peace Bridge ($25M...also not Nenshi's) and other capital projects on the city's increasing operational spending leading to property tax increases, so it's really hard to judge.

Bronco and Nenshi aren't as beloved as Duerr and Klein, but they also had to deal with a period of ridiculous growth and almost two decades of relative inaction in the city to make up for.

So if you're a 'low taxes and give me some roads to drive to work' Duerr and Klein are your guys. If 'let's turn this mid-size city into a big city' is what floats your boat, Nenshi and Bronco are your guys.

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Old 12-17-2018, 09:15 PM   #62
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Klein: Good 80's mayor, Olympics raised his profile.
Duerr: Nixing any needed spending and satisfying NIMBY's since 1989
Bronco: Developers and economy gone Boom
Nenshi: Hero to millennials, brought new face to Calgary and gave Rick Bell nightmares about Spendshi's reign at Silly Hall.

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Old 12-17-2018, 09:16 PM   #63
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Klein burning the Oilers pennant gets him the top spot.
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Appreciate your insight.

To answer your question on what makes a 'good' mayor, I think that's changing with the advent of social media and how it's used.

FWIW, good to me means a mayor who left the city in a better position than he found it by most measures.
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Next up: the mystery box

Gondek, hopefully.
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Gondek, hopefully.
I would love Jeff Davison to run if not Gondek. Would also love Chu and Farkas to be fired into the sun.
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Gondek, hopefully.


She is my councillor, but she has been pretty quiet. I don’t know if that’s good or bad. I was kind of expecting something a little closer to Farrell.
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Klein: Built the LRT. Blamed an influx of crime on "eastern creeps and bums." Drank a lot.


Duerr: Satisfying NIMBY's since 1989 by, among other things, unilaterally banning Marilyn Manson from performing here (I think it was 1995).


Bronco: Rich family, gave out lots of sweetheart deals to his rich friends.


Nenshi: Saved us from the champion of the old boys club, the weasel Ric McIver.
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I would love Jeff Davison to run if not Gondek. Would also love Chu and Farkas to be fired into the sun.
Jeff is doing well. Smart Councillor. Him and Gondek are fairly similar politically and in approach - I think they gotta decide amongst the two of them who is better positioned to win a mayoral race - one go in, one swallow their pride and ambition and stay on as Councillor, especially if were a race against someone like Farkas. Ambition makes that tough - but necessary. I also suspect Woolley will go in as a more ardent progressive (even though he's clearly making moves to try and demonstrate pragmatism).
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It absolutely blows my mind that anyone is buying what Farkas is selling, especially the last day or two in Council. This is grandstanding at its finest from a guy who has no interest in actually improving Calgary in any way. If you've already got everything you ever needed for the rest of your life, I can see why you might vote for this hack, but the rest of the City would definitely suffer from the stagnation he wants.
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It absolutely blows my mind that anyone is buying what Farkas is selling, especially the last day or two in Council. This is grandstanding at its finest from a guy who has no interest in actually improving Calgary in any way. If you've already got everything you ever needed for the rest of your life, I can see why you might vote for this hack, but the rest of the City would definitely suffer from the stagnation he wants.
Every single person who voted for him should be subjected to an IQ test for expulsion from the city.

And what a punchable face he has.
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Anyone who ever had to sit at the traffic light on Glenmore at Elbow can attest that Bronco > Duerr.
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Chu just robo-called to wish merry Christmas. That was all he said, but it took about 5 minutes to get the whole thing out. I'm sorry politicians, but I want a Merry Christmas rob-call even less than I want a Christmas card from you. This seems unnecessary.
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What makes a good mayor?

People talk up Duerr a lot even though nothing got built (but taxes didn't rise), putting the city into a major infrastructure deficit heading into over a decade of boom times.

Bronco spent and spent to the point people got tired of him, but we got some major projects done.

Klein is Klein. Had a tough decade for the city but also had the focus of the Olympics to work with. Was popular enough to be a card-carrying Liberal to become a beloved PC premier.

Nenshi had to balance keeping up with infrastructure spending while not quite being as wild-west with it as Bronco was. Was probably the right mayor to have take over for the East Village transformation. People whine about spending on stuff like bike lanes ($7M) and the Peace Bridge ($25M...also not Nenshi's) and other capital projects on the city's increasing operational spending leading to property tax increases, so it's really hard to judge.

Bronco and Nenshi aren't as beloved as Duerr and Klein, but they also had to deal with a period of ridiculous growth and almost two decades of relative inaction in the city to make up for.

So if you're a 'low taxes and give me some roads to drive to work' Duerr and Klein are your guys. If 'let's turn this mid-size city into a big city' is what floats your boat, Nenshi and Bronco are your guys.

Duerr was mayor during the time the feds were addressing Canada's defiicit problem.

Basically, managing the deficit was financed to a large extent on the backs of provinces and municipalities across Canada.
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Farkas Reporting that according to the verified YYC #'s that city council IS in line for a pay raise.



https://twitter.com/JeromyYYC/status...82439786696704


Should Council have to apologize to him now? What a ridiculous kindergarten we have running the city.

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But also:

https://twitter.com/brodie_thomas/st...95589869187072
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He's nothing but a sensationalist turd who caters to the many cantankerous old people in the riding. I'm ashamed he's my Councillor.
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I don't understand how they can have 'conflicting numbers'?

Are they adjusting the formula because they want to ensure no pay raise even though the current formula calls for one? Cooking the goose, per se?
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Sooooo... a 2.37% raise possible? Who cares?

If Farkas is that concerned, he should just donate his raise to charity, and maybe encourage the other councillors to do the same and just let that be the end of it.

How many days has this been going on for? If I am not mistaken, my back of the napkin math is somewhere like $450 of tax payer money per day for a salary, not taking into account vacation days. Maybe he should consider this when he starts these time wasting endeavours that go nowhere.
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There really is a simple decision to be made here. They won't get the final and accurate number until Dec 20. So maybe just decide in the new year and retroactivate it. Done. You're welcome. Farkas isn't wrong here. There's a discrepancy with the numbers. Voting on the wrong numbers is stupid. I kind of hope he gets an apology.

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