2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[IgiTang]

So... Bennett + + + for Kane?... where does Kane play? That’s a big overpayment for a player for your 3rd line or 2b line..

If you’re thinking Kane plays on the top line, why? Kane has 16 goals and no sure chemistry with Johnny and Monny, when Ferland has 19 goals and proven chemistry...

So.. what would be the point of this deal? I don’t get it.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

But....it was you who brought them up? I'm just saying that teams have been able to build around players making that ~17% of the cap since the cap was institutionalized. Including multiple divisional, conference and President Trophy winning teams. I don't see a reason why that can't be the case today. Especially for a player of Tavares' calibre. You just need to build around them properly. Again, though, I think 15M is high.

Chicago won the conference last year with Kane and Toews making 10.5M each on top of Seabrook's terrible 6.87M contract. With competency, it's easier to build around a great player(s) making a ton than it is building a balanced team (which pretty much requires an expansion draft to do at all) without a bonafide top tier player.

I brought them up as a reason to NOT sign Tavares for 15 M... that the Oilers were going to get hammered by the cap once McDavid's contract kicked in.

while the Oilers might have junk eating up space, they suck.

Calgary has legit players taking up space, which is why they are currently contending for a spot...

I don't think it would be smart for Calgary to sign a 15 million dollar player, and frankly, don't think they can with the contracts coming up in the next two years.

you think otherwise.

I'll leave it at that

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

I brought them up as a reason to NOT sign Tavares for 15 M... that the Oilers were going to get hammered by the cap once McDavid's contract kicked in.

while the Oilers might have junk eating up space, they suck.

They suck because of the people around McDavid, not McDavid himself. #### he's making under 0.925M in cap this year, I guess no one should sign Tavares to 1M?

Oilers suck because they suck, it's an organizational thing. Using them as a basis for any other argument is unfair. Look at other teams that are paying top tier players 10M+ (in actual cap or cash) and you'll notice it's very much doable to build around high priced contracts.

[Jiggy]

Originally Posted by Insane_Flame

I live in Vancouver and someone close to his family mentioned to him that Evander is interested in the Flames as a possible landing spot. Says he is not keen to necessarily play too close to home but likes where the Flames are headed and thinks it might be a good compromise. Mentioned that he heard Flames are willing to part with Bennett as his contract will most likely be pricey and a blue chip defensive prospect. I would think it might also take a pick of some sort. Think this is even possible?

Take with a grain of salt.

I went to school with one of Evander's family members. I know Kane has interest in the Flames and the Flames have interest in him. He wants to play closer to home just not in Vancouver. My guess is the Flames try and sign him July 1. But he goes to a team in California.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Insane_Flame

I live in Vancouver and someone close to his family mentioned to him that Evander is interested in the Flames as a possible landing spot. Says he is not keen to necessarily play too close to home but likes where the Flames are headed and thinks it might be a good compromise. Mentioned that he heard Flames are willing to part with Bennett as his contract will most likely be pricey and a blue chip defensive prospect. I would think it might also take a pick of some sort. Think this is even possible?

Take with a grain of salt.

I donate my jersey to goodwill and become a Vegas fan if they make that trade.

[Roof-Daddy]

Would you rather have Tavares for $12 million per or Backlund and Kane for $6 million per each?

No assets given up, all signed as UFA's.

7 year term for Tavares, 6 year terms for Backlund and Kane.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Would you rather have Tavares for $12 million per or Backlund and Kane for $6 million per each?

No assets given up, all signed as UFA's.

7 year term for Tavares, 6 year terms for Backlund and Kane.

Tavares. He's way better than Backlund, and we could just slot an ELC winger by Tavares (like Mangiapane).

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Would you rather have Tavares for $12 million per or Backlund and Kane for $6 million per each?

No assets given up, all signed as UFA's.

7 year term for Tavares, 6 year terms for Backlund and Kane.

Tavares for sure, in my opinion. He'll make his whole line better, adding to the "value".

[DJones]

Tkachuk - Tavares - Pylon
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Bennett - Jankowski - Frolik

No matter who is in that #1 RW spot, that is a huge upgrade to this team.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Would you rather have Tavares for $12 million per or Backlund and Kane for $6 million per each?

No assets given up, all signed as UFA's.

7 year term for Tavares, 6 year terms for Backlund and Kane.

Tavares because I don’t think Kane is worth $6M and not consistent enough for that contract. I also think 6x6 is too rich for Backs. $12 for Tavares is steep but he is a superstar and Monahan as the number 2 centre sets up and elite team.

[dino7c]

Let's not forget Brouwer/Stajan are taking up 7.5 in cap space this season. Give me a 10+M player over a few of those clowns any day.

[Roof-Daddy]

For consideration, the last 3 seasons:

Tavares -> 86 goals, 191 points
Backs + Kane -> 114 goals, 243 points

So technically, you are getting more bang for your $12 million by going with the duo over Tavares, but JT would certainly elevate whatever wingers you put on his line allowing you to keep Johnny and Mony together for another elite 2nd line.

I think I go with Tavares as well.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Would you rather have Tavares for $12 million per or Backlund and Kane for $6 million per each?

No assets given up, all signed as UFA's.

7 year term for Tavares, 6 year terms for Backlund and Kane.

Sign Tavares, sign Backlund, trade Backlund for asset.

We all know it will take just about max for him to choose to come here over somewhere more desirable.

I think 12.5 in on the low end.

[Toonage]

Marry Tavares...kill um...no wait....

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by DJones

Tkachuk - Tavares - Pylon
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Bennett - Jankowski - Frolik

No matter who is in that #1 RW spot, that is a huge upgrade to this team.

Exactly, you can even rotate kids in there, Give Klimchuk, Poirer, David Moss in that spot.

Huge upgrade on the powerplay as well, which is really what we need.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Tavares because I don’t think Kane is worth $6M and not consistent enough for that contract. I also think 6x6 is too rich for Backs. $12 for Tavares is steep but he is a superstar and Monahan as the number 2 centre sets up and elite team.

Between '14/'15 and '17/'18, Evander Kane has 58 even strength goals. That puts him firmly in the top 50.

He's also put up .34 Goals Per Game. That places him 36th in the league during that time period. To question his consistency is off-base.

Kane produces as a top line winger, no matter how you cut it. His next contract will also carry him through some prime years into his early 30s. Evander Kane is most definitely worth 6M per.

Mikael Backlund is also worth 6M per. Kyle Turris just signed a 6x6 deal with Nashville, and that's about as perfect as a comparable contract can get.

I don't think there's a hope in hell that Tavares chooses to sign in Calgary. It's a pipe dream.

Evander Kane and Mikael Backlund at 12M could happen, and heck - I'd like it to happen - but having both of those players in at 6M will put us in a tight spot moving forward once Ferland, Bennett and Tkachuk need their new contracts.

Running a group of forwards that looks like this:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Bennett - Jankowski - Kane
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Mangiapane - Lazar - Hathaway

would be outstanding, but again - difficult to maintain cap-wise.

[Macho0978]

Tavares in a heartbeat. After that you trade Stone for a pick and call up Rasmus Andersson and then trade for Hoffman in the off season

Tkachuk - Tavares - Hoffman
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Bennett - Jankowski - Frolik

When Ferland, Tkachuk and Bennett's contracts are up you part ways with Brodie/Smith and promote whatever prospects you didn't trade for Hoffman (Fox, Gillies, Kylington, Valimaki)

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DJones

Tkachuk - Tavares - Pylon
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Bennett - Jankowski - Frolik

No matter who is in that #1 RW spot, that is a huge upgrade to this team.

Tkachuk - Tavares - Brouwer/Mangiapane
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Bennett - Jankowski - Frolik
Hathaway-Hrivik-Lazar/Mangiapane/Brouwer

You keep Brouwer for his last year or buy him out. I think at his current level of play, he doesn't hurt the line for a year. Mangiapane could pan out. Or you sign a guy to be a Maroon (but not Maroon).

[FlamesFanTrev]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Would you rather have Tavares for $12 million per or Backlund and Kane for $6 million per each?

No assets given up, all signed as UFA's.

7 year term for Tavares, 6 year terms for Backlund and Kane.

I will take option 3. Sign Backland for 6x6, don't give up assets for anyone with an attitude problem and no term, let anyone thats thinks they are worth as much as Monahan and Gaudreau combined collect their checks elsewhere, and continue to develop from within. If you need to add pieces, figure out what you have first, and do your dealing on the draft floor instead of the trade deadline. And full stop on signing UFAs that are over 30 years old.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by FlamesFanTrev

I will take option 3. Sign Backland for 6x6, don't give up assets for anyone with an attitude problem and no term, let anyone thats thinks they are worth as much as Monahan and Gaudreau combined collect their checks elsewhere, and continue to develop from within. If you need to add pieces, figure out what you have first, and do your dealing on the draft floor instead of the trade deadline. And full stop on signing UFAs that are over 30 years old.

The Penguins resigned Malkin to a higher cap hit than Crosby. Adding 2 more cups I'm sure Sid doesn't care

Also I'm sure Monahan and Gaudreau will get their pay days too. If you can add a Tavares who basically carries 2 average players too ppg totals you add that guy if possible. Odds are he doesn't choose Calgary anyways