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View Poll Results: What do you think of the trade after a week of getting your head around it?
Love it, think Lucic is an upgrade 109 16.80%
Like it, clears some cap space even if Lucic is no better 197 30.35%
Indifferent, both teams getting a failed project 187 28.81%
Dislike it, Neal needed another year to bounce back 107 16.49%
Hate it, Neal will be better in Edmonton 49 7.55%
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:54 PM   #121
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Pinder seems to be under the impression that the NMC does not become void once waived by the player.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1152303802625798146
I think Pinder is wrong there.

Overall I still don’t like this for the Flames unless the Oilers are eating like $2M

Think it’s more likely Neal bounces back than Lucic.
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:55 PM   #122
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Lucic just wants to be able to keep doing his special secret handshake with Talbot.
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:55 PM   #123
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Deal is still being fine tuned, paperwork getting done based on NMC, but should be finalized shortly.
It shouldn't take too long to change, "Oilers no move clause" to "Oilers no! Move clause."
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Pinder seems to be under the impression that the NMC does not become void once waived by the player.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1152303802625798146
According to the CBA (Section 11.8) the acquiring team in a trade can make the choice to honor (or not) a NTC/NMC only if the player is traded BEFORE it kicks in. If Lucic comes here, the NMC is in place.
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:55 PM   #125
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Lucic is bad, but Neal was monumentally bad last year.

Can't say I have much faith Neal would have a better season with us. Seems like he came to Calgary because of Mike Smith, so makes sense he follows him to EDM.

2 bad players with 2 bad contracts. But Lucic's contract is worse in terms of his NMC and being buyout proof.
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:56 PM   #126
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I don’t like this. At all.
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:56 PM   #127
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IF Lucic waives for the expansion draft and they retain over 30%, I don't HATE it.

But I still don't like it
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:56 PM   #128
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Save us sureloss with good news about how much salary retained and what an amazing pick it is.
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Pinder seems to be under the impression that the NMC does not become void once waived by the player.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1152303802625798146
The team acquiring the player gets to decide if they want to honour the clause. Its not a concern.
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:56 PM   #130
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I can't believe Tre would stoop to this level.

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According to the CBA (Section 11.8) the acquiring team in a trade can make the choice to honor a NTC/NMC only if the player is traded BEFORE it kicks in. If Lucic comes here, the NMC is in place.
The NMC is in place unless the player waives it. Lucic can permanently waive it if he wants. I don't think he has to wait at all.
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:56 PM   #133
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:56 PM   #134
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According to the CBA (Section 11.8) the acquiring team in a trade can make the choice to honor (or not) a NTC/NMC only if the player is traded BEFORE it kicks in. If Lucic comes here, the NMC is in place.
Well, there we have it.

Legitimately one of the worst moves in franchise history. This could cost us Andersson or Mangiapane.
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:57 PM   #135
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I for one didn't think there was any chance the Flames could do anything with Neal but buy him out.

I'm amazed there was a trade potential.
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The team acquiring the player gets to decide if they want to honour the clause. Its not a concern.
This is not how it works at all.
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I love how this breaks and Fan 960 is all like "meh" lets talk Stamps
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He still needs to be protected I believe lmao..
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:57 PM   #139
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The team acquiring the player gets to decide if they want to honour the clause. Its not a concern.
That’s not how it works. If the player still wants it they don’t waive in the first place. The specifics are all part of the negotiation to waive your NMC to begin with.
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:57 PM   #140
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Not aware of any specific drama, but interesting that good buddies Smith and Neal are both gone and will be playing on the same team.

Both unhappy here? Unhappy together?

Maybe Tre decided it was worth a shot to replace one problem with an entirely different problem in Lucic.

But either way this is a hard one to stomach.
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