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View Poll Results: Would you be willing to trade down?
Yes, more picks is better 25 7.46%
No, take the best player available at 15 176 52.54%
Maybe, depends on who is on the board. 134 40.00%
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Old 06-06-2015, 10:43 PM   #1
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With this draft having a plethora of very talented players both in the neighbourhood from 15-25 and from 35-65 would you be willing to trade down to get additional picks.

It would entirely depend on who is on the board at 15 because you might have a Cam Fowler type situation with one of the good players.

The easiest hypothetical trade would be moving 15 to Buffalo for picks 21 and 51 (That is almost the identical deal that happened in 2012 coincidentally).

What are your thoughts?
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Old 06-06-2015, 10:45 PM   #2
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We already have plenty of quantity in the top 90.

Take the quality.
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I'd prefer to stay at 15 or even move up if possible. I'm not against trading down but this isn't the year to do it IMO.
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Old 06-06-2015, 10:57 PM   #4
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For me it would depend on the specifics of why the flames would do that
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Old 06-06-2015, 10:59 PM   #5
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Consider all options. I guess it depends who thy really want. I'd say there are re same odds try flames move up as there are that they move down. Lots of factors in play here
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Old 06-06-2015, 11:19 PM   #6
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I think we should keep the pick or try and move up
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Old 06-06-2015, 11:41 PM   #7
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the only scenario I can live with is Ottawa (18 / 42).
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Old 06-07-2015, 12:00 AM   #8
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Take the BPA at 15 or try to trade up.

Teams with 6 picks in the top 90 don't need to trade down.
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BPA at 15...dont need to relive the Sutter days
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Old 06-07-2015, 12:28 AM   #10
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No. We already have two 2nd round picks and two 3rd round picks in this draft. We are not lacking bottom six / bottom pairing prospects at this point.
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Old 06-07-2015, 12:53 AM   #11
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3rd option. It depends, but there are a lot of people to pick at 15.
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Old 06-07-2015, 01:18 AM   #12
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No. We already have two 2nd round picks and two 3rd round picks in this draft. We are not lacking bottom six / bottom pairing prospects at this point.
Not that this would change your mind but...the flames have 3 second round picks.
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Old 06-07-2015, 01:41 AM   #13
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I don't see a need for another 2nd round pick, but if we could couple that with packaging a couple 2nds to move up in a separate deal I'd be game.
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Old 06-07-2015, 01:51 AM   #14
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Calgary drafting at 51, 52 and 53 in the second round would be pretty damn hilarious.
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Calgary drafting at 51, 52 and 53 in the second round would be pretty damn hilarious.
That's part of the reason I like the idea. Has that ever happened before?
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Old 06-07-2015, 02:31 AM   #16
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No. There might be a player we really like who could slide to #15 but won't slide to #21. I know it's a deep draft but I'm never of a fan of moving down in any draft because whatever capacity it's in you either stay where you are or move up, but not move down to potentially make your pick worse.
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Old 06-07-2015, 07:53 AM   #17
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Absolutely yes. I know I'm in the minority here, but statistically there is very little difference in probability of selecting an NHL regular at 15 than 21 (using the example given). I'd rather have the team take more shots than fewer.
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Old 06-07-2015, 09:38 AM   #18
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Trading back for more picks when you already have 6 in the first three rounds would be stupid in my opinion. If your scouts know what they're doing the Flames should be willing to pay the price to move out and aggressively go after players they want. Teams who sit back and acquire more picks are hanging hopes on prayer and chance.
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Absolutely yes. I know I'm in the minority here, but statistically there is very little difference in probability of selecting an NHL regular at 15 than 21 (using the example given). I'd rather have the team take more shots than fewer.
I agree. Unless one of the lads touted as a true Top 10 contender pick drops, there is not a lot separating picks in mid to late first end.
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Old 06-07-2015, 10:25 AM   #20
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I would suspect that most teams that trade down, do so because of another team that approached them rather than just doing so for the sake of an extra pick.

Every team has their own list, if another team thinks one of their guys might be gone by the time their turn to pick rolls around they may approach another team to trade up. And if that team thinks a guy they like will still be around they make the trade and take the extra pick for the assumed risk.

Thats why its so difficult to trade into the top 10. Its a consensus, and costs an arm and a leg to get into. But after that you start to get into teams individual lists.

Should they be actively pursuing a trade to trade down? Nope. Should they trust their scouts' list and take advantage of an opportunity to acquire more picks? I have no problem with that.
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