[News] 2020 Draft lottery Phase 1 results - a placeholder team has the 1st overall pick

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

They still haven’t lost 87.5% of first round matchups. Even with their dismal recent record.


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Haha.

They've made the playoffs 14 times since the cup in '89, and have been past round 1 twice.

It really has nothing to do with this years team either, but this years team doesn't leave me very confident that they will win a playoff round either.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Haha.

They've made the playoffs 14 times since the cup in '89, and have been past round 1 twice.

It really has nothing to do with this years team either, but this years team doesn't leave me very confident that they will win a playoff round either.

And getting Lafreniere doesn't assure that of changing anything.

It's why cheering for your team to lose games, to get a draft pick you are 87.5% unlikely to actually receive, makes absolutely zero sense.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Haha.

They've made the playoffs 14 times since the cup in '89, and have been past round 1 twice.

It really has nothing to do with this years team either, but this years team doesn't leave me very confident that they will win a playoff round either.

This years team, and everyone else’s team is absolutely unknown after everything that’s went down. Other than a few top teams and a few bottom teams I give everyone the same chance at this tournament. Who gets their #### together the fastest. It’s going to be a hell of a fun playoffs to watch.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by transplant99

And getting Lafreniere doesn't assure that of changing anything.

It's why cheering for your team to lose games, to get a draft pick you are 87.5% unlikely to actually receive, makes absolutely zero sense.

Why is this directed towards me? I never said I was cheering for losses.

[transplant99]

My mistake...i will go to the corner of shame and humiliation now.

But for those of you......

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

You would? Not enough for you?

How about the teams that have hundreds of millions of dollars on the line.

Draft conspiracy comments drive me insane. So dumb.

OK pal, since I'm "so dumb" please explain what's the point of Bettman's video drawing numbered balls if we don't get to see what team the balls correspond to? Why is the lookup list not released before the draw?

One doesn't need to be a conspiracy nut to see a way of rigging the draft...it's in plain site.

Last years List was released after the draw as well.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

OK pal, since I'm "so dumb" please explain what's the point of Bettman's video drawing numbered balls if we don't get to see what team the balls correspond to? Why is the lookup list not released before the draw?

One doesn't need to be a conspiracy nut to see a way of rigging the draft...it's in plain site.

Last years List was released after the draw as well.

Agreed. I'm shocked that the NHL doesn't make a huge show out of this like the World Cup Draw (obviously not this year). They could have celebrities and legends draw balls. Have the GMs there and whenever the first balls comes out, in this case it was a 9, have a big board that regenerates the odds and interview the GMs to see what they think. NHL marketing needs to get on this.

Once the numbers were 9-10-2, there could be a suspenseful delay and the big board shows OTT (x4), DET (x2), ANA (x1), NJ (x1), BUF (x1), Team A (x1), Team E (x1), and the corresponding numbers.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Have to think they'll move some.

There has to be a line where you bring too many players into your system and hurt asset value by not having the level of development or opportunity to move them all forward.

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Pretty sure Dorrian already said they would be using some of their picks to trade for NHL ready players.

Well then, this seems like a logical landing spot for Bennett if the Flames decide to move him.

[Flamenspiel]

I think there is a good possibility the Jets also tank. There is no playoff revenue available for the teams. Participate, show up and you get a share in all the playoff revenue. In this particular year with no home playoff dates, the tank is fully organizationally justified. I think it will be a talkathon, with both teams trying to lose.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

I think there is a good possibility the Jets also tank. There is no playoff revenue available for the teams. Participate, show up and you get a share in all the playoff revenue. In this particular year with no home playoff dates, the tank is fully organizationally justified. I think it will be a talkathon, with both teams trying to lose.

The Jets will not tank. No team is going to tank.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Haha.

They've made the playoffs 14 times since the cup in '89, and have been past round 1 twice.

It really has nothing to do with this years team either, but this years team doesn't leave me very confident that they will win a playoff round either.

You know who else gave their fan base little confidence going into the playoffs and were predicted to be done in rnd 1? The 2004 Flames team. It's the playoffs, anything can happen.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You know who else gave their fan base little confidence going into the playoffs and were predicted to be done in rnd 1? The 2004 Flames team. It's the playoffs, anything can happen.

For the record....

After the trade deadline in '04 the Flames went on a 8W - 4L - 1T streak. ~106 point pace. I remember feeling quite optimistic going into the playoffs.

Agreed though, anything can happen.

[Poe969]

That team had one of the best goalies in the world and the best power forward in the game. When you have 2 of the best players in the world, especially a world class goalie, you always have a shot.

This team doesn't have a forward who can single handedly take over a game and carry the team on his back. They don't have an amazing goalie either

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

For the record....

After the trade deadline in '04 the Flames went on a 8W - 4L - 1T streak. ~106 point pace. I remember feeling quite optimistic going into the playoffs.

Agreed though, anything can happen.

Flames played at a 101pt pace after Peters was removed from the bench.

With a 4+ month layoff and no fans going right into tournament play it will be very tough to predict what will happen.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

I think there is a good possibility the Jets also tank. There is no playoff revenue available for the teams. Participate, show up and you get a share in all the playoff revenue. In this particular year with no home playoff dates, the tank is fully organizationally justified. I think it will be a talkathon, with both teams trying to lose.

Jets are already stacked on the wing. Laine, Wheeler, Connor, Ehlers.

[1qqaaz]

So if the Flames beat Winnipeg, but decisively lose to Vegas in round 1, do you think the Flames have to make big moves?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

So if the Flames beat Winnipeg, but decisively lose to Vegas in round 1, do you think the Flames have to make big moves?

Yup

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

So if the Flames beat Winnipeg, but decisively lose to Vegas in round 1, do you think the Flames have to make big moves?

Regardless of the playoff outcome the roster is going to likely look different as it's very possible both of Brodie and Hamonic are gone and Gaudreau as well. How far they go in the playoffs probably has more to do with the coaching decision. If they win a few rounds maybe they take a long look at Ward. If they exit early I would imagine a new coach may be incoming.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The Jets will not tank. No team is going to tank.

I agree. I don't think any team will be tanking. I don't think the intensity, and that play through anything to win attitude will be there though with most of the players. All the worries from Covid coupled with the long break, will mean players will be rusty, and some probably just won't have their hearts fully in it. Which is understandable, players are just human after all.

I think this year, more than any other year, the team with that goalie that starts off hot at the beginning of the season, will be the team that wins the cup. It could be some no name back up who plays out of their minds for 20 games, that wins the cup.

[CroFlames]

I don't like gatekeeping fandom, but if you're cheering for losses, you may need to get your head checked out.