The trials and tribulations of Glen Gulutzan

[Bawbag]

He needs to go right now. Just not good enough

[crapshoot]

Zero adjustments. How is it possible to make zero adjustments in this situation Glen? Are we going to patience our way to the bottom? Ridiculous.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Zoller

Darryl Sutter

Nah, GG is more like Brent.

[Serapth]

No, he isn't. He really isn't. He may be a good strategist, but during the game we'd be better off putting the guy that tapes up the sticks in charge of lines.

I honestly don't care who we replace him with, just please, replace him.

[TheScorpion]

Personally, I choose to base my opinion on a coach based off of results instead of anecdotes and knee-jerk reactions.

Last year, the powerplay wasn't working to start the season, which is why it was changed. Versteeg was put on the point, and he ended up leading the team in powerplay goals. Now, it clearly isn't working anymore, so who's to say that it won't be changed again?

Trust the process.

[GullFoss]

1) Defensive coverage is passive and lacks intensity

2) Special teams are terrible. No one moves their feet on the PP. The PK is passive. The line combinations on the PP are bad. Bad special teams was cited as a reason behind the Hartley firing. So don't give me any bull#### about "its not GG who does the PP."

3) Outside of the 3M line, no one battles well in the offensive zone. As a result, there is no zone pressure

4) Ice time management is piss poor. The fourth line is getting 10-15 minutes a game, but is composed of Stajan and Glass, two players that are AHLers at best.

5) Bennett - the highest draft pick in flames history - isn't developing properly


All of the above issues are coaching issue. Its time for Glen to go. The window isn't open for very long - we cant afford to have an inexperienced and ineffective coach at the helm.

[Jaydee]

gg

[Lanny_McDonald]

Fire Gulutzan. The team doesn't look motivated at all. Teams are a reflection of their coach, which explains why this team is an emotionless ball of boring. Just get it done already.

[Pipty]

A few years back the penguins made a coaching change that turned them around 180. Hopefully tre sees that there is only one change he can make to hopefully salvage this season before its too late.

[ThaBrink]

Originally Posted by Pipty

A few years back the penguins made a coaching change that turned them around 180. Hopefully tre sees that there is only one change he can make to hopefully salvage this season before its too late.

The only problem is that for every situation like that, there's one that ends up the exact opposite.

[Pipty]

Can't get any worse right now can it?

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Personally, I choose to base my opinion on a coach based off of results instead of anecdotes and knee-jerk reactions.

Last year, the powerplay wasn't working to start the season, which is why it was changed. Versteeg was put on the point, and he ended up leading the team in powerplay goals. Now, it clearly isn't working anymore, so who's to say that it won't be changed again?

Trust the process.

You’re joking right? You’re just trying to justify starting the GG is a good coach thread. He is terrible.

[TheScorpion]

Jesus Christ. Talk about a ####ing knee-jerk reaction. It's been eleven games and this is hardly the most surprising start to a season in the NHL. The way I've seen it, while I agree that specialty teams need to be improved, that's Dave Cameron's responsibility and his track record is the opposite of pristine. In terms of an actual system, well, we saw from December to March last year what Gulutzan's system can look like when it's implemented properly.

From where I sit, the Flames are already well ahead of their development curve when compared to last year and are in a much better position moving forward. If I was to make a change, I'd change around some of the forwards on the roster and maybe consider an external addition, but again, that's not on Gulutzan, it's Treliving's job.

Also, for the record, Gulutzan is hardly "inexperienced". He has over five years of NHL coaching experience.

[Machiavelli]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Jesus Christ. Talk about a ####ing knee-jerk reaction. It's been eleven games and this is hardly the most surprising start to a season in the NHL. The way I've seen it, while I agree that specialty teams need to be improved, that's Dave Cameron's responsibility and his track record is the opposite of pristine. In terms of an actual system, well, we saw from December to March last year what Gulutzan's system can look like when it's implemented properly.

From where I sit, the Flames are already well ahead of their development curve when compared to last year and are in a much better position moving forward. If I was to make a change, I'd change around some of the forwards on the roster and maybe consider an external addition, but again, that's not on Gulutzan, it's Treliving's job.

Also, for the record, Gulutzan is hardly "inexperienced". He has over five years of NHL coaching experience.

How so?

[GullFoss]

Darryl Sutter:
634-467 Regular Season record
89-81 Playoffs record
17 playoff rounds won
2 Stanley Cups

Glen Gully:
114-95 Regular Season
0-4 Playoffs
0 playoff rounds won
0 stanley cups

Even if Gully gets us to the playoffs, I doubt he's going to have much success.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Personally, I choose to base my opinion on a coach based off of results instead of anecdotes and knee-jerk reactions.

Last year, the powerplay wasn't working to start the season, which is why it was changed. Versteeg was put on the point, and he ended up leading the team in powerplay goals. Now, it clearly isn't working anymore, so who's to say that it won't be changed again?

Trust the process.

The results are a mediocre team. Period.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

You’re joking right? You’re just trying to justify starting the GG is a good coach thread. He is terrible.

I'm not "trying" to do anything. Feel free to question the justification for me starting this thread -- which, I feel, is well-founded -- but considering the lack of good options available out there and what I've seen from Gulutzan, I don't support a coaching change.

For the record, Darryl Sutter would be an absolutely horrible option that I want no part of. Look what L.A. is doing now that they've been freed from his "system". The Flames aren't built for his teachings anymore, they're designed for old and slow teams, which the Kings of 2012 and 2014 were but aren't anymore, and the Flames haven't been since like 2012.

[DJones]

Coaching seems like the biggest problem with this team right now. Playing well below the sum of their parts.

[Infinit47]

So if we fire GG do I get unblocked by lots of people?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I'm not "trying" to do anything. Feel free to question the justification for me starting this thread -- which, I feel, is well-founded -- but considering the lack of good options available out there and what I've seen from Gulutzan, I don't support a coaching change.

For the record, Darryl Sutter would be an absolutely horrible option that I want no part of. Look what L.A. is doing now that they've been freed from his "system". The Flames aren't built for his teachings anymore, they're designed for old and slow teams, which the Kings of 2012 and 2014 were but aren't anymore, and the Flames haven't been since like 2012.

Absolutely agree with this. Darryl Sutter's way of coaching would be a disaster with this team.