Enmax Bills

[fundmark19]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Does anyone get their gas through Direct Energy? I don’t have a contract or anything, just floating rate or whatever every month. I want to take ATCO up on this offer but switching both Enmax and Direct Energy feels like a potential headache. But it’s prob like $200-300 savings over the two months for both gas and electricity... worth the headache.

What’s the headache? You just type in your address in a website and it’s done

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by Peanut

If you want to cancel your Enmax service, call Enmax.

I wonder how much you actually save, it says on the flyer that the Energy Credit does not include: Delivery charges, access fee, franchise fee, admin fees, taxes, levies and other charges beyond commodities. I will have to take a closer look at my bill, its all paperless and automated with City of Calgary/Enmax.

[fundmark19]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

I wonder how much you actually save, it says on the flyer that the Energy Credit does not include: Delivery charges, access fee, franchise fee, admin fees, taxes, levies and other charges beyond commodities. I will have to take a closer look at my bill, its all paperless and automated with City of Calgary/Enmax.

Well last year I received a credit of 82 from enmax so at least double that for 2 months so 160-200.

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

I wonder how much you actually save, it says on the flyer that the Energy Credit does not include: Delivery charges, access fee, franchise fee, admin fees, taxes, levies and other charges beyond commodities. I will have to take a closer look at my bill, its all paperless and automated with City of Calgary/Enmax.

With a floating rate for electricity and gas, the delivery and regulatory charges will probably be around 2/3rds of the total bill.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by fundmark19

What’s the headache? You just type in your address in a website and it’s done

To cancel? With Direct Energy? I don’t know. I moved in August and just transferring from one address to another seemed to really max out the capabilities of their customer service. And I still got a notice that my “SERVICE WOULD BE DISCONNECTED” if I didn’t contact them after moving into the new place. Even though I’d already contacted them weeks prior to request the move. My confidence in their competency is low.

I do put a little more faith in Enmax successfully cancelling my service and not accidentally on purpose continuing to bill me.

[accord1999]

When you sign up for ATCO, they handle the cancellation for you so you don't need to contact Enmax or DE.

[Flamenspiel]

Great responses CP members! thanks to all that provided valuable information.

[FlamesKickAss]

The frustrating part is I am trying to compare bills on the ucahelps site but it doesn't give floating info...... I don't know if it is worth switching...

[kevman]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

I wonder how much you actually save, it says on the flyer that the Energy Credit does not include: Delivery charges, access fee, franchise fee, admin fees, taxes, levies and other charges beyond commodities. I will have to take a closer look at my bill, its all paperless and automated with City of Calgary/Enmax.

Not much. Last month I used 295 kwh for a total of $11.32 and 6.89GJ for a total of $8.26. Free energy would be $20/month for two months. The other $102.45 on my bill were admin and distribution charges and fees

[Barnes]

I am switching today. Is variable the way to go for both electricity and gas?

[White Out 403]

stayed with enmax and signed up for their stupid contest. 80 dollars savings over 2 months isnt worth switching to atco.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Barnes

I am switching today. Is variable the way to go for both electricity and gas?

Absolutely, judging from past performance.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by accord1999

When you sign up for ATCO, they handle the cancellation for you so you don't need to contact Enmax or DE.

THIs was unfortunately not true for me today when I called.

[snootchiebootchies]

Just got a flyer in the mail for this deal today. Seems like a good deal at first but once you crunch the numbers, I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle. Based on my last three years consumption history (I have variable rates), I should be able to save at least $110 to $120 bucks with the ATCO deal. But as others have noted, roughly only one-third of my natural gas and electricity bill is for the actual commodity itself. The other two-thirds are all the associated fees. So if ATCO charges higher delivery fees, it will eat into those savings pretty quickly. And you also have to factor in the potential time lost and inconvenience if there are any problems with the switch from Enmax to ATCO.



Also, if I was to apply the savings to 2015 to 2017, it works out to be roughly 4% savings on my overall annual bill, although the 2017 number is estimated as I do not have my November or December bills yet. But for those who do not want to crunch the numbers, a quick and dirty way to calculate your potential savings is to apply a 4% discount to your annual utility spend.

[Boblobla]

So what duration is everyone signing up for with Atco? Is it worth it to go with the 5 year or take the shorter term and roll the dice the rates do not increase. I don't see gas going much lower than it is right now...

[stampsx2]

Whenever I call in they say a lot of people take fixed rates for electricity but almost nobody takes fixed on gas.

[stampsx2]

Originally Posted by snootchiebootchies

Just got a flyer in the mail for this deal today. Seems like a good deal at first but once you crunch the numbers, I'm not sure if it's worth the hassle. Based on my last three years consumption history (I have variable rates), I should be able to save at least $110 to $120 bucks with the ATCO deal. But as others have noted, roughly only one-third of my natural gas and electricity bill is for the actual commodity itself. The other two-thirds are all the associated fees. So if ATCO charges higher delivery fees, it will eat into those savings pretty quickly. And you also have to factor in the potential time lost and inconvenience if there are any problems with the switch from Enmax to ATCO.



Also, if I was to apply the savings to 2015 to 2017, it works out to be roughly 4% savings on my overall annual bill, although the 2017 number is estimated as I do not have my November or December bills yet. But for those who do not want to crunch the numbers, a quick and dirty way to calculate your potential savings is to apply a 4% discount to your annual utility spend.

So if your numbers are right, then you would of saved about $400 over the last three years? Sounds good to me.

Does your calculation account for the lower admin fee’s and lower gas and electricity rates?

[snootchiebootchies]

Originally Posted by stampsx2

So if your numbers are right, then you would of saved about $400 over the last three years? Sounds good to me.

Does your calculation account for the lower admin fee’s and lower gas and electricity rates?

But isn't the discount just for this coming January/February? It's not for every January/February period for the next three years is it? The flyer I received yesterday says we are getting two months gas and electricity free if we make the switch. So max. savings would be in the $120 range.

Also, if NG and power fees are lower this January/February, then the overall savings will be less. But if we have a terribly cold winter, than overall savings will be more. And what we do not know is ATCO's admin and delivery fees.

[prarieboy]

Originally Posted by Peanut

THIs was unfortunately not true for me today when I called.

Weird.

The person on Live Chat told me they would handle the cancelations.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by prarieboy

Weird.

The person on Live Chat told me they would handle the cancelations.

Yeah same with me. I signed up a couple days ago, haven't heard anything from anyone yet.