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Old 08-25-2021, 11:26 AM   #61
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My riding will go 70% to the Earl of Dreeshen so I am voting NDP as last election they took a few points more than the Liberal candidate.
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Old 08-25-2021, 11:29 AM   #62
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I live in Calgary Centre so I'm in a bit of a conundrum. The riding is really a toss up between the CPC and Liberals.

I like the Liberal candidate, but hate the Trudeau government.

I like Jagmeet Singh and the NDP, but they have no chance of winning in my riding.

I don't care for the Conservative incumbent, but may vote for him to stop a Liberal government. I may very well vote for the NDP, but would be upset if the Conservatives lost their seat.... though I think the Liberal candidate would do a great job.
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Old 08-25-2021, 11:56 AM   #63
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I don't like any of the candidates. I prefer the liberal plan for housing prices to the cons plan which I think mostly increases prices (other than the foreign buyer rule).

I don't like the cons stance on healthcare, and issues like abortion, assisted suicide, and conscience rights.

Since neither party is going to reign in spending (anyone thinking otherwise is delusional), and the fact that the cons generally prefer to provide tax breaks instead of programs is probably enough of a reason for me to not vote for them. The childcare tax break is a joke in my opinion, though I don't necessarily fall entirely in line with liberals $10/day plan either, I prefer their plan to the cons.


I'll vote for whoever has the best chance in my riding that isn't conservative. I'd like to see the cons get trounced, and come back with decent people, more along the lines of the Nova Scotia conservative party.


I also don't like the cons having the ability to change the Canadian Charter if they get 7 provinces and a federal party.

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Old 08-25-2021, 12:00 PM   #64
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Nobody is following through on the Housing plans so just forget all about that.
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Old 08-25-2021, 12:09 PM   #65
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Nobody is following through on the Housing plans so just forget all about that.

I'm basing what they are saying as a measure of how they see things. I don't think any party is going to do everything they say. It won't matter anyway, Trudeau met a lot of his promises and people still act as if he's lied about all of them.

The cons plan benefits builders and real estate associations not citizens. That's a good indication of where they want to go. That's a small issue for me though.

My bigger concerns are the social and healthcare issues. Erin O'Toole was just caught handing out contracts to friends. He's doing that right before an election, if he gets in, it's more of the same as Trudeau with positions on issues I don't agree with and I think the cons would have been an absolute disaster during covid.

This election is very meh.
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If builders win, then citizens win because builders build... homes.
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Old 08-25-2021, 12:23 PM   #67
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If builders win, then citizens win because builders build... homes.

Is that what's happening now? Calgary is building lots of houses, are prices decreasing? Lifting the CMHC ceiling doesn't help prices. Removing, or lowering the stress test doesn't lower prices. It allows people to spend more money they don't have.


They need to do better than that. I admit the foreign ownership rule won't hurt.
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I'm basing what they are saying as a measure of how they see things. I don't think any party is going to do everything they say. It won't matter anyway, Trudeau met a lot of his promises and people still act as if he's lied about all of them.

The cons plan benefits builders and real estate associations not citizens. That's a good indication of where they want to go. That's a small issue for me though.

My bigger concerns are the social and healthcare issues. Erin O'Toole was just caught handing out contracts to friends. He's doing that right before an election, if he gets in, it's more of the same as Trudeau with positions on issues I don't agree with and I think the cons would have been an absolute disaster during covid.

This election is very meh.
Really? I can think of Legal Weed off the top of my head.

Open and Honest Government? He's making his case as potentially the single most corrupt PM in Canadian History.

Electoral Reform? Ha! Hahahahahaha!!!

Trying to pass Bills in the House without letting people even read them?

Whats he done other than legalize marijuana?
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Building a house involves a lot of people and trades at almost precisely the economic point that you want to target.

These are the people that you want to have jobs and money, because they spend it.
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It's kind of wild that I have to vote for 3 people this year and none of them are for what I really care about, which is the party running this province into the dirt.

Fed - George Chahal (like the guy, not enamored with the Fed Libs at all but he's the best of bad options)
Ward 3 - Nate Pike (if he gets his ground game going), Jasmine Mian (backup)
Mayor - Jyoti Gondek (was solid in her 1 term as Councilor for Ward 3, far and away the best candidate in the field for mayor)
Gondek really disappointed me in her reddit AMA where the most updated question (will you disclose your donors list prior to election day?) was completely ignored, despite it being one of the first questions asked.
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Really? I can think of Legal Weed off the top of my head.

Open and Honest Government? He's making his case as potentially the single most corrupt PM in Canadian History.

Electoral Reform? Ha! Hahahahahaha!!!

Trying to pass Bills in the House without letting people even read them?

Whats he done other than legalize marijuana?
Well, there's a running total of everything here: https://www.polimeter.org/en/trudeau

In the 42nd Parliament, he kept 67% of his promises, partially kept 26%, and broke 7%.
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I don't live in Calgary, but if I did, I'd probably be voting for Jan Damery. Down to earth, pragmatic, and made a successful career for herself. She also worked in the energy sector, and a solid understanding of multi-sector economics. She was also an international aid worker and clearly cares for the vulnerable population among us.

Her platform is clear and future-looking, both on the economy and for the environment and sustainability of the city.

I think I started with Gondek, but I have switched my hypothetical vote.
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Well, there's a running total of everything here: https://www.polimeter.org/en/trudeau

In the 42nd Parliament, he kept 67% of his promises, partially kept 26%, and broke 7%.
Wow. He broke every Economic promise. Shocking stuff.
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Well, there's a running total of everything here: https://www.polimeter.org/en/trudeau

In the 42nd Parliament, he kept 67% of his promises, partially kept 26%, and broke 7%.

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Really? I can think of Legal Weed off the top of my head.

Open and Honest Government? He's making his case as potentially the single most corrupt PM in Canadian History.

Electoral Reform? Ha! Hahahahahaha!!!

Trying to pass Bills in the House without letting people even read them?

Whats he done other than legalize marijuana?

You're exactly the type of person I was talking about. Whether you agree with him, hate him etc, to say he hasn't kept any promises is inaccurate.


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Wow. He broke every Economic promise. Shocking stuff.
As most parties do.


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Building a house involves a lot of people and trades at almost precisely the economic point that you want to target.

These are the people that you want to have jobs and money, because they spend it.

Yes but the rules they are putting forward don't reduce prices. They allow people to get more money than they can afford. That doesn't bring prices down. Calgary has been expanding like crazy for decades. Have prices decreased? You can build homes and put rules in that prevent properties from increasing. These rules allow builders to charge more for properties because people will take more money if they are able to. That does the opposite. When I'm saying it benefits builders/real estate industries, I more referring to those industries pushing these ideas because it allows them to charge more. They are going to build regardless of these rules.

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Is there really no NDP candidate for Calgary-RockyRidge?
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Is there really no NDP candidate for Calgary-RockyRidge?
Do they have an online application portal? Do I have to live there?

I could kill a couple of birds with one stone here...
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Do they have an online application portal? Do I have to live there?

I could kill a couple of birds with one stone here...
No, you don't have to live there. I want a sign!! (although I also don't live in that riding)
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Will the sign be "Locke in the NDP"? Because if so, I'll take 2.
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If you don't have any real intentions on taking serious climate action, you won't be getting my vote. That eliminates the Conservatives right away.

I'm overall on the fence with regard to the job Trudeau has done. I'm glad that he legalized marijuana, brought in carbon pricing, and paid lip service to basic income, but I'm not happy about his scandals, and it doesn't look like we are on pace to meet our Paris targets (let alone be a world leader in fighting climate change).

I guess my vote is going to the NDP or Greens. Not entirely sure though. It's a shame there aren't better choices available. Decision will likely be made on the day of voting.
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Wow. He broke every Economic promise. Shocking stuff.
I think you need to look at the website again.

42nd Parliament:
Economy and Employability (37 promises)
Broken: 6 (16%)
Partially kept: 9 (24%)
Kept: 22 (59%)

43rd Parliament:
Economy and Employability (49 promises)
Not yet rated: 29 (59%)
Broken: 1 (2%)
In progress: 16 (33%)
Partially kept: 2 (4%)
Kept: 1 (2%)
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