03-15-2018, 09:19 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Wait a bit, and maybe Toys R Us will have a clearance...
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03-15-2018, 09:21 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Just a shoutout to Pedalheads for getting my kid (5) to ride her bike within the first day of camp - we're sending her back for two weeks this year because she loved it so much. We were the folks who spent some cash on a kid's bike - we got a Spawn bike for her and it was great - super lightweight, easy for her to ride. She's a 36 lb kid, we didn't want a heavy, hard to manoeuvre bike for her (plus we're in a condo, wanted something that we could carry downstairs easy). Sadly, she's outgrown it and we'll be on the search for a new one, but I don't have any regrets with that purchase.
For sure look on Kijiji - I'll be putting her bike up on there as soon as we find a replacement for it.
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03-15-2018, 09:27 AM
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#23
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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It is possible to get a light cheap bike. Canadian Tire is your best bet. My oldest is turning 12 this year and we are going to get her a nice bike now. She has always outgrown her previous year's bike.
There is no use getting an expensive bike for a 5 year old. They might even outgrow it during the warm season - that happened to us twice.
Easiest way to teach a kid to bike is take them down a gentle grassy hill. That's how Petalheads does it. I taught my youngest to bike in about 15 minutes.
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03-15-2018, 09:37 AM
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if you children don’t want to ride a bike because it’s a steel frame and doesn’t say Kona or Cannondale, I’d have to question if they actually enjoy riding a bike. Children will either outgrow or inevitably not lock up a bike and find it gone long before they are going to perform past the bikes capabilities.
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03-15-2018, 09:48 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 81MC
if you children don’t want to ride a bike because it’s a steel frame and doesn’t say Kona or Cannondale, I’d have to question if they actually enjoy riding a bike. Children will either outgrow or inevitably not lock up a bike and find it gone long before they are going to perform past the bikes capabilities.
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You want it to be reasonably enjoyable though. If you like to take your kids out to ride, you don't want them to resort to walking their bikes up hills because they have no other gears and their bike is heavy. There are places around Calgary that are relatively flat or have short incline that can be powered through for sure, but in my neighbourhood that isn't the case unless you want to go for a really boring short ride.
Still, I would scour Kijiji or Pinkbike or something for choices before buying a new one that the kids might outgrow.
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03-15-2018, 09:54 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Vancouver
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Isla Bikes make quality bikes for children. Just want to throw it out for you as an option:
https://www.islabikes.com/
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03-15-2018, 10:10 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Wormius
You want it to be reasonably enjoyable though. If you like to take your kids out to ride, you don't want them to resort to walking their bikes up hills because they have no other gears and their bike is heavy. There are places around Calgary that are relatively flat or have short incline that can be powered through for sure, but in my neighbourhood that isn't the case unless you want to go for a really boring short ride.
Still, I would scour Kijiji or Pinkbike or something for choices before buying a new one that the kids might outgrow.
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CT or Walmart bikes use the same components. Cheapest shimanos.
You are better off spending extra on a 24 inch inch bike because kids are older, more capable and those bike can come with goodies like better gear sets, hydrolic brakes etc.
But be prepared to spend $150 every time your kid snaps the master cylinder....my kid did that twice in one summer
For the original poster, my advice would be to get the better bike for the 8 year old and keep it for the little one. The 5 year old will be fine with a CT or Walmart $100 bike. Costco is another option.
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03-15-2018, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 81MC
if you children don’t want to ride a bike because it’s a steel frame and doesn’t say Kona or Cannondale....
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I think that more kids would be concerned about the color and any extra bling on it (i.e. does the kid think the bike looks cool) before the brand name on the downtube.
as a complete aside, there are a couple of vids on youtube where adult cyclists ride walmart bikes on trails and at bike parks - there is some amusing commentary on the vids
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03-15-2018, 10:33 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Calgary
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Get a stride or balance bike for the 5 year old.
My son is 4.5 and started riding a 2 wheel bike with no training wheels last June.
He had a strider and we would still go for rides and he would keep up. The balance he learned got him ready to ride a lot faster. And then when you go from balance to pedals don't add the training wheels, I have seen family members do this and there is regression on the balance.
Also I have heard pedal heads is awesome for them to learn to ride.
All bikes we have bought off of Kijiji.
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03-15-2018, 08:10 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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Originally Posted by habernac
If you want your kid to continue cycling, don't buy them garbage from Canadian Tire or Walmart.
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LOL! Wow!
It's a bicycle.
For a five and a eight year old.
They're out having a bit of fun. Not training for Le Tour
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03-15-2018, 10:22 PM
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Scoring Winger
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^is resale value a consideration?
My kid rode a Spawn bike last season (fantastic bike btw). Put it up on kijiji and sold it for basically what I paid. That won't happen with a CT/Walmart bike.
Also peace of mind. I can't put my kid on a garbage bike either because I simply don't trust the frame or build.
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03-16-2018, 07:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagor
LOL! Wow!
It's a bicycle.
For a five and a eight year old.
They're out having a bit of fun. Not training for Le Tour
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There's a snob for every topic it seems.
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03-16-2018, 07:55 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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I'm a snob for not wanting my kids to ride heavy ####ty bikes? Ok.....
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03-16-2018, 08:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cracher
^is resale value a consideration?
My kid rode a Spawn bike last season (fantastic bike btw). Put it up on kijiji and sold it for basically what I paid. That won't happen with a CT/Walmart bike.
Also peace of mind. I can't put my kid on a garbage bike either because I simply don't trust the frame or build.
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I think the idea that the CT/Walmart bike is going to maim your kid or something is maybe a bit aggressive, with a little elbow grease and due diligence they can be OK, if inefficient and a bit frustrating to ride. I do agree that the used high end kids bike market in Calgary is awesome. I bought a second hand Spawn when my daughter moved up from the run bike. Aside from scratches associated with kids learning to ride, that thing is a beast. I probably shouldn't admit it, but I've done many a late night drunken circus bear act for friends on that little bike out camping, and it has no give. It's now going to my son this summer, and when he's done with it, I expect to lose very little on resale. Daughter is now on an islabike for her first geared bike and I can't say enough about them. They look a little bit pedestrian, but the geometry is absolutely perfect. Was surprised at how quickly she became very proficient on it.
I'm a bike guy so I don't mind spending a little more on "quality", and the used market is amazing. Kids don't use up these bikes, as long as they are cared for they will go forever. The one caveat is that the used market is very competitive. Good deals get snapped up pretty quickly. Have to scan kijiji pretty actively and wait for the good ones to pop up.
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03-16-2018, 09:24 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Spartanville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by habernac
I'm a snob for not wanting my kids to ride heavy ####ty bikes? Ok.....
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No, but you're dramatic and over the top for suggesting that 'all' 5 & 8 year old kids are so fragile that riding a "####ty heavy" bike will traumatize them and put them off further bike riding.
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03-16-2018, 09:57 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Yeah the weight difference also isn't that great. The bikes are so small that you could make the damned things from carbon fibre and the weight savings would not be material.
I've looked at the "good" kid's bikes at bike stores. There's barely any difference. Even my kids didn't care.
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03-16-2018, 11:52 AM
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The risk aspect is interesting to me. Have low quality bikes become much worse then they ever were? Are the YouTube videos of 200lbs adults destroying them making a market impact? Are parents less willing/able to do a routine inspection on their kids equipment?
I think the most important part of your children’s biking experience should be teaching them to do a quick once over before riding - even on a $3000 bike, you should be making sure the wheel is still secure before bombing down the hill.
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03-16-2018, 12:06 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 81MC
The risk aspect is interesting to me. Have low quality bikes become much worse then they ever were? Are the YouTube videos of 200lbs adults destroying them making a market impact? Are parents less willing/able to do a routine inspection on their kids equipment?
I think the most important part of your children’s biking experience should be teaching them to do a quick once over before riding - even on a $3000 bike, you should be making sure the wheel is still secure before bombing down the hill.
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Off-tangent, but I think some parents are like this. As an example, I have seen more a couple of parents send their kids to skating lessons with skates that are obviously way too big for them and with bike helmets that are on so loose that they wouldn't offer any protection in a fall, in fact they would probably cause more injuries. So, how enjoyable could skating be if your parents are sending you out with skates that are too big? Are you going to want to keep skating? I think that bad first experience sticks with you for a while.
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03-16-2018, 12:22 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Talk about over analyzing a little kid's bicycle purchase
They are not going to Tour De France. Any bike will do for kids that age, but I'd consider getting a "better" bike for the older kid if the kid is into biking.
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03-16-2018, 12:37 PM
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evil of fart
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This is truly no different than any other thing you buy. Typically, the more expensive thing will be better than the cheaper thing (up to a point). Get what you can afford.
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