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Old 03-19-2018, 05:59 PM   #4121
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It's a sound theory in isolation, but when put in the context of the Sharks game where Smith couldn't stop a beach ball, it's a bit like wrapping your couch in plastic to try and protect it from the house that's burning down around you.
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Old 03-19-2018, 11:08 PM   #4122
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I hope for the rest of my life that the Flames never, ever hire a coach as bad as Gulutzan. This has been the worst season I've ever watched.
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Old 03-19-2018, 11:19 PM   #4123
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Old 03-19-2018, 11:24 PM   #4124
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I hope for the rest of my life that the Flames never, ever hire a coach as bad as Gulutzan. This has been the worst season I've ever watched.
I want him gone as much as the next guy but this isn't all on him.
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Old 03-19-2018, 11:24 PM   #4125
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I bet they hire Willy Desjardain. Especially if GG still has term left.
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Old 03-19-2018, 11:40 PM   #4126
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All I know is that when GG/DC/MG are done with the Flames, none of them will ever get NHL coaching jobs again.
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Old 03-20-2018, 12:36 AM   #4127
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All I know is that when GG/DC/MG are done with the Flames, none of them will ever get NHL coaching jobs again.
It is so incredibly baffling to me that GG is willing to sacrifice his NHL career for Dave Cameron.

For all of his faults, there's no chance he's fired if the PP was above average.
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Old 03-20-2018, 05:14 AM   #4128
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Im glad to see the majority has come around to see how bad of a coach the GlueGun is. I was getting grief in the past for calling him a dud of a coach and calling out his uninspiring leadership.

I was praying for his firing before the Christmas and then again early in the new year so that the season could still possibly be saved. But then GlueGun went and tossed that stick early in January which seemed to be enough to fool Treliving into giving the GLueGun the rest of the season (hopefully its just the rest of the season and Treliving hasnt lost it completely and is thinking of giving GlueGun another season).
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:31 AM   #4129
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:34 AM   #4130
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Troy Brouwer: 2:43 ice time on PP1.
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:37 AM   #4131
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Troy Brouwer: 2:43 ice time on PP1.
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Old 03-20-2018, 07:57 AM   #4132
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Troy Brouwer: 2:43 ice time on PP1.
That's it?

I thought the greatest player on the Flames would get more.
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Old 03-20-2018, 08:05 AM   #4133
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That's it?

I thought the greatest player on the Flames would get more.
Tied for first among all forwards.

Le sigh.
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Old 03-20-2018, 08:20 AM   #4134
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Interesting coaching talk on 960 now...

Pinder mentioning how the Flames don't have a history of paying for coaching. Either they go green or get someone who has been out of the league for a while (paraphrasing).

Suggests that with the Flames just finishing paying out Hartley there may not be an appetite to pay GG if he's canned (and assuming he has another year left - my note)

Scolds the Flames for not even talking to Boudreau when Boomer asks if the Flames have tried to land a high profile candidate

Boomer suggests he doesn't want to talk about firing a guy but then accepts that GG is likely gone

My note - Love love love that media is finally talking about this team's lack of high profile coaching hires (and Flames coaches in general). This needs to be addressed

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Old 03-20-2018, 08:42 AM   #4135
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I bet they hire Willy Desjardain. Especially if GG still has term left.
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Old 03-20-2018, 08:44 AM   #4136
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Someone tongue in cheek suggested getting rid of the POHO position and folding that salary into coaching- we should absolutely be doing this and not thinking twice about it.
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Interesting coaching talk on 960 now...

Pinder mentioning how the Flames don't have a history of paying for coaching. Either they go green or get someone who has been out of the league for a while (paraphrasing).

Suggests that with the Flames just finishing paying out Hartley there may not be an appetite to pay GG if he's canned (and assuming he has another year left - my note)

Scolds the Flames for not even talking to Boudreau when Boomer asks if the Flames have tried to land a high profile candidate

Boomer suggests he doesn't want to talk about firing a guy but then accepts that GG is likely gone

My note - Love love love that media is finally talking about this team's lack of high profile coaching hires (and Flames coaches in general). This needs to be addressed
Well Flames owners have a decision to make.

Do they want to cheap out and have a higher risk of hiring another mediocre coach, or be willing to actually pay market value for a high profile coach that has recent history of success?

You get what you pay for. If they actually get in a coach with high credentials, then I'm sure the (hopefully many) playoff games alone over the multiple seasons would pay it off.
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Im glad to see the majority has come around to see how bad of a coach the GlueGun is. I was getting grief in the past for calling him a dud of a coach and calling out his uninspiring leadership.

I was praying for his firing before the Christmas and then again early in the new year so that the season could still possibly be saved. But then GlueGun went and tossed that stick early in January which seemed to be enough to fool Treliving into giving the GLueGun the rest of the season (hopefully its just the rest of the season and Treliving hasnt lost it completely and is thinking of giving GlueGun another season).
Four GlueGuns in a single post...nice!
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Old 03-20-2018, 08:58 AM   #4139
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Well Flames owners have a decision to make.

Do they want to cheap out and have a higher risk of hiring another mediocre coach, or be willing to actually pay market value for a high profile coach that has recent history of success?

You get what you pay for. If they actually get in a coach with high credentials, then I'm sure the (hopefully many) playoff games alone over the multiple seasons would pay it off.
A team with a 5 million dollar or less operating income isn't bringing in a 5 million dollar coach.

The owners aren't going to do a cash call with no new building in sight.

The only way we get a high profile coach is if a equivalent or more amount of player salary goes out the door to cover it.

This team has pretty much been a cap team, and I'm sure that the owners are looking at that and saying what the freak.

First I think this will not be a cap team next year, that's the next logical step for the owners.

Second no high profile coach is going to come to a team who's first move it to fire coaches like its a back alley in the 1930's prohibition era.

Third, no coach is going to name Calgary as their top 10 market to coach in.
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Old 03-20-2018, 08:58 AM   #4140
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I want him gone as much as the next guy but this isn't all on him.
You know what, you arent wrong, its not all on him, but I'll tell you some things that really burn me and the guys on the Fan960 this morning were almost too scared to talk about them.

I dont know why.

But heres the thing, the coach really needs to help more than harm.

We arent talking about 30 points here. This team is going to miss out by the slimmest of margins.

Your 4th line isnt that good? Play them less when the game is tight.

Your defence isnt clicking? Switch them up a little?

Your goalie looks like hes having a bad night? Pull him. You have another.

Game is getting out of hand? Try motivating your players. Cant hurt right? Maybe call a timeout. If you still lose you lose.

How many games did Ol' Gul claim 'We Just Werent Ready?' A Half-Dozen? Be ready. Makes sense to me.

Your powerplay isnt good? Change it. Even just for the sake of variety.

It took 50+ games to get Dougie Hamilton on the PP and a broken face to get Brouwer off of it.

So when you think of these amazingly slim margins you think:

If the powerplay/pk was even middle-of-the-pack we're in the playoffs comfortably and laughing.

If we'd closed out a few tight games we're in the playoffs comfortably and laughing.

If we'd cut our number of 'Just Not Ready' games in half we're in the playoffs comfortably and laughing.

The Wheel did not require reinvention, just small, astute moves at key moments would likely have been sufficient.

So you're right. Its not 100% on Gulutzan, the players have to perform too.

But we're talking a career year from Johnny. A career year from Monahan. A career year from Tkchuk (<-albeit thats a bit disingenuous), a great year from Gio, a great year from Smith and just a good year (<-albeit his good years are pretty great) from Hamilton.

I mean, its not like these bunch of schlubs just flubbed the entire season.
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