What are your thoughts on Glen Gulutzan's system?

[polak]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

That is dumb. I think Gulutzen always had this year to take a step forward with this roster. After securing a playoff berth I don't think there is any doubt that he has earned himself the benefit of the doubt, and at least another full year to go with it.

JuJu Gods please ignore this mans arrogance.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by polak

JuJu Gods please ignore this mans arrogance.

Do you think it's playoff Birth?

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by polak

JuJu Gods please ignore this mans arrogance.

I am posting from the future.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by St. Pats

I like his system when they are winning / not so much during the losing streaks.

This is how I feel about the system the Oilers use as well.

And I am an expert on these things because I played up to midget.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

This will be the measure going forward. If the team flounders next season I think GG is gone.

That escalated quickly. We've already fired him twice this season, now we're already talking about firing him next season?

I do agree with your first sentence though. That was a big flaw with Hartley -- there was no plan B if plan A wasn't working. At least we have evidence this year that Gulutzan is willing to tweak things over time.

[Jay Random]

I don't blame Hartley for the lack of a plan B. Hartley designed his system to make the best use of the limited talent available. If he had tried to make them play a conventional system, they would have been a losing team and he would probably have been fired in '14-15 instead of winning the Jack Adams.

The '15-16 team fell between two stools. They were no longer putting in the extreme effort that made Hartley's system workable, but they did not yet have the players to win by conventional tactics. This year the team is strong enough to win without gimmicks.

[Firebot]

In a few months the perception of Gulutzan from everyone here (including me) went from this



to this

[Enoch Root]

Why do people always want to use the term 'everyone'?

People do have differing opinions.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Why do people always want to use the term 'everyone'?

People do have differing opinions.

Yeap.

Some here were willing to give the guy some runway to attempt a take off.

Others were "glue gun this" and "glue gun that".

Other still were seriously wanting the organization to fire him and replace him with Hartley less than 10 or 15 games in.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Why do people always want to use the term 'everyone'?

People do have differing opinions.

Very true. I thanked the post because of the hilarious first gif. It was amazing how quickly Oiler fans came up with the "He's your Eakins" talking point. And it's great to see people coming around on Gulutzen, gotta be doing something right when people start making the celebratory gifs of you.

This might be the biggest face turn since Lex Luger slammed Yokozuna onboard the USS Intrepid.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Firebot

In a few months the perception of Gulutzan from everyone here (including me) went from this



to this

From the first page of this thread.

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I like it a lot. It is the system I was hoping for.

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Originally Posted by Firebot

In a few months the perception of Gulutzan from everyone here (including me) went from this



to this

This describes me perfectly. I was way down on GG for a very long time. And I could not be more happy to have been so very wrong. I'm also very happy smarter people than I are in charge of the Flames.

[timbit]

Smart puck support from 4 receivers requires IQ , skill and work ethic.
Receiving angles, eye contact, being an option more than once, saving your ice, width and depth, creating time and space, someone takes your ice...you take theirs, triangulation.

These concepts and sub principles take time to implement. It is how you create a strong puck possession team,

After 3 years of stretching and chipping and chasing the puck and game, this has become a very smart team that plays with the puck very well and possesses it for a far greater part of the game. 5 up the ice, together, with the puck...5 back with intent and purpose.

The transition has not been easy for him or the players.

GG has done an excellent job of transforming the Flames game and optimizing their amelioration.

[Point Blank]

Originally Posted by Lanny'sDaMan

This describes me perfectly. I was way down on GG for a very long time. And I could not be more happy to have been so very wrong. I'm also very happy smarter people than I are in charge of the Flames.

If only more people were willing to admit they were wrong like you

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Why do people always want to use the term 'everyone'?

People do have differing opinions.

In this thread, everyone nitpicking about a hyperbole in a post with a Gulutzan-Eakins gif

Yes, I am sure even Eakins had a few fans, and not Everybody Loves Raymond. Large majority had issues with Gulutzan, especially back in October.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Point Blank

If only more people were willing to admit they were wrong like you

I actually credit Treliving with more of the turnaround, believe it or not.

The team hasn't lost since he finally got a proper top 4 defenseman to shove Wideman out of there. Even goaltending improved because of this.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Why do people always want to use the term 'everyone'?

People do have differing opinions.

Originally Posted by Caged Great

From the first page of this thread.

No kidding:

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

When I see it in action I will let you know

But then something like this happens

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

I actually credit Treliving with more of the turnaround, believe it or not.

The team hasn't lost since he finally got a proper top 4 defenseman to shove Wideman out of there. Even goaltending improved because of this.

lol.

[EVERLAST]

I've enjoyed this winning streak and how engaged this team finally is playing it.

Yeah it's not perfect and zone entries aren't clean every time but it beats watching failed dump and chase hockey.

They now know that it works and are all playing confidently.

Getting the d to be more active in certain games helps as well. All our d our playing better especially Brodie. It's been tough
Watching previously as I wondered how much it had to do with confidence.

I'm glad GG stuck to his guns and didn't divert from it.

Since doing so as well its made Elliot's life allot easier and now he's playing lights out for the most part ....not perfect but getting close......920 save percentage.

Playoffs here we come

[Point Blank]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

I actually credit Treliving with more of the turnaround, believe it or not.

The team hasn't lost since he finally got a proper top 4 defenseman to shove Wideman out of there. Even goaltending improved because of this.

So then would you credit BT for the poor performance up until the Montreal game? Genuinely curious

[united]

Sample size for evaluation is so important, especially when evaluating such a drastic tactical change. Hopefully a lesson learned for many.