Lance Armstrong to be charged with doping?

[JohnnyNipshank]

Wow i guess i kind of forgot about this but after a 2 year investigation, reports are that charges will be brought against him.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...123553256.html

[Erick Estrada]

Wow this will never die.

[habernac]

Nobody has proved jack squat yet. Innocent until proven guilty. The only thing anyone has proven so far is that Lance is a dick. And we all knew that already.

[saskflames69]

Like the cleaning of a house..

[troutman]

USADA, the agency that oversees antidoping efforts in Olympic sports in the U.S., said "numerous riders, team personnel and others will testify based on personal knowledge" of Mr. Armstrong's alleged doping. The knowledge was "acquired either through observing Mr. Armstrong dope" or through "admissions of doping to them," it added.

The letter also mentions "data from blood collections obtained by" the International Cycling Union, or UCI, in 2009 and 2010. "This data is fully consistent with blood manipulation" including use of use erythropoietin, or EPO, a drug that controls red-blood-cell production, "and/or blood transfusions."

[troutman]

http://lancearmstrong.com/news-event...ada-allegation
Lance Armstrong Responds to USADA Allegation

AUSTIN, TX -- June 13, 2012 -- I have been notified that USADA, an organization largely funded by taxpayer dollars but governed only by self-written rules, intends to again dredge up discredited allegations dating back more than 16 years to prevent me from competing as a triathlete and try and strip me of the seven Tour de France victories I earned. These are the very same charges and the same witnesses that the Justice Department chose not to pursue after a two-year investigation. These charges are baseless, motivated by spite and advanced through testimony bought and paid for by promises of anonymity and immunity. Although USADA alleges a wide-ranging conspiracy extended over more than 16 years, I am the only athlete it has chosen to charge. USADA’s malice, its methods, its star-chamber practices, and its decision to punish first and adjudicate later all are at odds with our ideals of fairness and fair play.

I have never doped, and, unlike many of my accusers, I have competed as an endurance athlete for 25 years with no spike in performance, passed more than 500 drug tests and never failed one. That USADA ignores this fundamental distinction and charges me instead of the admitted dopers says far more about USADA, its lack of fairness and this vendetta than it does about my guilt or innocence.

[troutman]

The leaked letter:

http://online.wsj.com/public/resourc...arging0613.pdf

[Northendzone]

i suspect that lance likely took something, but that being said, it is time to move on.....

[GGG]

I don't understand the need to continue the which hunt on dopers who were dopers when everyone who they were competing with was doping and the sports agencies were making tons of money because of doping.

That said I would love if Carl Lewis finally was proven to have doped. Everyone else from that era has admitted or been caught.

I also don't understand people who are ademant that Lance didn't dope. Even without any actual evidence just considering the culture and the fact that everybody was doping, and that early on there was no test for EPA it is highly likely that he doped. So to deny that as a possibility in my opinion is unreasonable.

Really that just becomes the doped era of the sport and you move on.

[Coys1882]

How many hours of manpower and dollars are spent on these stupid cases. God - between Bonds, Clemens and Armstrong I bet they didn't spend this much time and money on the Nuremberg trials.

[ricoFlame]

I've said it before and i'll say it again...You can't dominate a sport filled with dopers without doping...it's not possible.

[Nage Waza]

I would much rather the Tour be filled with dopers. In fact, I would prefer lots of sports to be 100% doped.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

I would much rather the Tour be filled with dopers. In fact, I would prefer lots of sports to be 100% doped.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/c53...-drug-olympics

[mykalberta]

I wonder what the burden of proof in something like this. The Justice department found there wasnt enough to charge him with that they thought would go above and beyond reasonable doubt.

[pylon]

It is only a matter of time for Lance.

However, I don't really hold it against him. The entire professional cycling community is doped up, so the only way to win anything is to cheat like everyone else. At least he used his fame for good things besides pimping Subarus. Him and his foundation have used his image well to raise money for needy charities.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

I would much rather the Tour be filled with dopers. In fact, I would prefer lots of sports to be 100% doped.

If there were 2 championships, one with totally clean athletes, the other where any sort of doping was fair game, would one be much more popular than the other? Or would that vary by the sport?

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

If there were 2 championships, one with totally clean athletes, the other where any sort of doping was fair game, would one be much more popular than the other? Or would that vary by the sport?

Well, if it was an all out 'roid, blood doping cycling league, sorry, I am watching that. Imagine having IBF calibre bodybuilders, riding at NASCAR speeds, uphill, in 24 hour super endurance stages. Sure, they would all die of heart failure after one event, but it would be a hell of a spectacle.

[puffnstuff]

I like how they call it 'non-analytical evidence' makes hearsay, and 'we don't have a positive test we can hang you with', sound way better...

[CaptainCrunch]

If we're going to open up sports to steroids and doping, I'd like to add a really creative element and put genetic maniplulation and surgical options in.

Imagine Olympic swimmers with blow holes gills and flipper hands and feet. Boxers with their brains relocated to their a$$es so the only way to knock em out was to punch em in the butt. I'd like to see soccer players with spring loaded hips.

Everyone likes freaks, and watching freaks built to specialized athletic specs would be money.

[troutman]

Armstrong suit against USADA dismissed
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/OtherSport.../19966951.html

U.S. District Judge Sam Sparks, who said he would allow lawyers to file an amended complaint within 20 days, called the suit a “lengthy and bitter polemic” rather than the “short and plain statement of detailed facts.”

“This court is not inclined to indulge Armstrong’s desire for publicity, self-aggrandizement, or vilification of defendants, by sifting through eighty mostly unnecessary pages in search of a few kernels of factual material relevant to the claims,” Sparks wrote in a three-page ruling, released only hours after the cyclist filed suit.