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Old 08-26-2019, 05:11 PM   #1
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Having a fun situation here and would love to consult the CP braintrust.

Moved in to a place Aug 1. Landlord lives in the basement (Completely seperate entrance, etc) and is working on a second basement unit.

During the walkthrough the landlord emphasized how quiet the unit was and how he didn't really hear anything in the basement. The unit has hardwood floors throughout but he said he had done a lot of work on sound proofing the basement.

Now he is sending me messages saying that I walk too loudly and to avoid wearing shoes in the place (which I don't), and to advise guests that there is a unit in the basement and to be mindful of that while walking. He also said he had to make the previous tenants aware of it as well so apparently his soundproofing isn't amazing as he said in the walkthrough.

He asked me to get rugs, so we have a couple, but he came in to do some work and said we needed more and of a different type to further reduce the sound and that he'd be following up in a couple weeks.

I'm pretty tempted to tell him to go pound sand but I'm a reasonable person and I've lived with basement tenants before without issue (and in a basement myself during Uni) so I tried to reason with him after the first time he mentioned it but here we go again.

I don't really want to go spend hundreds of dollars on rugs to cover every inch in in every room, plus that's going to look ridiculous. Why have hardwood floors if you have to have every inch of your house covered in rugs? If he was so concerned about the noise maybe he should have installed carpet!

I've also had to listen to construction noises the past month as he finishes up the second rental unit in the basement so it's pretty rich to complain about walking when I'm listening to drilling and hammering all day.

Obviously I have a right to walk in my rental unit and I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that says that's unreasonable noise but how would you go about resolving this issue?



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Old 08-26-2019, 05:15 PM   #2
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Well, on the whole, I would probably do exactly what you have planned to do, and in the meantime, look to get out of that apartment ASAP. Too bad you are only 25 days into your lease!
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:15 PM   #3
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Ignore him and find a new place.
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Ignore him and find a new place.
Year-long lease so don't really have any way to move on without continuing to be on the hook for it as far as I'm aware. I mean, I could file with the Residential Tenancy Dispute Resolution Service for rent abatement because he's not allowing me peaceful enjoyment of the property if it keeps up but that feels like a bit of a stretch and doesn't resolve anything.

Ignoring I can definitely do.

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Anyone else come to these threads hoping that the other party involved is also a member? And thunderdome ensues?
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Anyone else come to these threads hoping that the other party involved is also a member? And thunderdome ensues?
The thought crossed my mind that he might be on here. Maybe we can resolve it in the thunderdome
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:45 PM   #7
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As long as you aren't doing anything out of the ordinary (like wearing tap shoes) then I don't think it's reasonable to expect you to do anything more than just act normally (like buy tons of carpet).

If he wants to buy the carpet then I guess that's fine, though if he does that make sure there's an amendment to the RTA that you're not responsible for normal wear. If it was me living downstairs and it was my property this is probably what I'd do for my own benefit.

It sucks because who knows what telling him you've done all you can reasonably be expected to do will do.. having a bad landlord/tenant relationship can suck.
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Is the house in Bonavista by any chance?

It sounds like he probably hasn't done a good job properly soundproofing; I would bet he probably didn't use resilient channeling to secure his ceiling sheet rock, and just packed the floor cavity with a bunch of insulation, which ain't gonna cut it.
This definitely sounds like a him problem, and not a you problem; anything you've done to ease his concerns is probably already above and beyond what you're required to do.
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:53 PM   #9
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not even a month in, that sucks and it's bound to get worse.
If you're both unhappy, perhaps propose a compromise, you'd be willing to find a new place if he'd be willing to let you out of your lease?
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Is this a legal secondary suite? Like, do you think he's actually built a proper fire separation? Usually if you're building a properly rated floor assembly, you would consider the STC (sound transmission class) rating as well as the fire rating.
Edit* See pages 10 & 13
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Having a fun situation here and would love to consult the CP braintrust.

Moved in to a place Aug 1. Landlord lives in the basement (Completely seperate entrance, etc) and is working on a second basement unit.

During the walkthrough the landlord emphasized how quiet the unit was and how he didn't really hear anything in the basement. The unit has hardwood floors throughout but he said he had done a lot of work on sound proofing the basement.

Now he is sending me messages saying that I walk too loudly and to avoid wearing shoes in the place (which I don't), and to advise guests that there is a unit in the basement and to be mindful of that while walking. He also said he had to make the previous tenants aware of it as well so apparently his soundproofing isn't amazing as he said in the walkthrough.

He asked me to get rugs, so we have a couple, but he came in to do some work and said we needed more and of a different type to further reduce the sound and that he'd be following up in a couple weeks.

I'm pretty tempted to tell him to go pound sand but I'm a reasonable person and I've lived with basement tenants before without issue (and in a basement myself during Uni) so I tried to reason with him after the first time he mentioned it but here we go again.

I don't really want to go spend hundreds of dollars on rugs to cover every inch in in every room, plus that's going to look ridiculous. Why have hardwood floors if you have to have every inch of your house covered in rugs? If he was so concerned about the noise maybe he should have installed carpet!

I've also had to listen to construction noises the past month as he finishes up the second rental unit in the basement so it's pretty rich to complain about walking when I'm listening to drilling and hammering all day.

Obviously I have a right to walk in my rental unit and I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that says that's unreasonable noise but how would you go about resolving this issue?
Brutal that must be torture.



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Brutal that must be torture.



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Is this a legal secondary suite? Like, do you think he's actually built a proper fire separation? Usually if you're building a properly rated floor assembly, you would consider the STC (sound transmission class) rating as well as the fire rating.
Edit* See pages 10 & 13
I think so, I mean he told is about the sound transmission work that had been done and how quiet it was in the basement which is why it's such a surprise that it's noisy. Probably cheaped out and did it poorly or something.
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Is the house in Bonavista by any chance?

It sounds like he probably hasn't done a good job properly soundproofing
Inner city. I probably hear more street noise than he hears me walking.
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I notice when I come home in the evening
She ain't got nothing nice to say to me
But for five year she was so nice
Loh' she was lovy-dovy
I come home one particular evening
The landlady said
You got the rent money yet?
I said no, can't find no job
Therefore I ain't got no money
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Put the rugs on your feet. aka slippers.

Wear them for a couple of weeks and then slowly stop wearing them. That'll train him.
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If you live in a basement suit then you know what's up. Its unreasonable to think that you wont here every thing the upstairs people do. If he owns the house, then it is his fault for choosing an arrangement that pisses him off.
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I’d move immediately.
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If you live in a basement suit then you know what's up. Its unreasonable to think that you wont here every thing the upstairs people do. If he owns the house, then it is his fault for choosing an arrangement that pisses him off.
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