I honestly don't even hate the Ewoks. The major issue is what the Ewoks did to the franchise. They were the first truly child focused characters and became the predecessor to characters like Jar Jar Binks. I guess, ultimately, you could blame the toy sales for that, and not the Ewoks.
I still appreciate some of the Ewok humour. The way they played of C3POs extremely dry personality was great. The light-hearted nature of the Ewoks also worked as a great contrast to the extreme somberness of the Luke/Palpatine confrontation. That whole sequence of events, switching between the throne room/endor/the space battle is brilliantly executed.
The battle with the Ewoks isn't even all that cringy. For the most part, they use relatively intelligent guerilla tactics. It's not as though they hand it to the Empire either. Most of their tactics just distract. There's obviously a few stupid things in there, like the Ewok riding the speeder bike, but that's all just relatively minor, and even then a pretty great use of practical effects for its day.
If Lucas had access to CGI when ROTJ was made, that would have been something horific. If he'd had the ability to give them constant cartoony expressions, it would have been unbearable.
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If you keep everything the same in Jedi, but replace Ewoks with Wookies, and just make the battle more realistic and intense, you got yourself a masterpiece movie.
I'm sorry, but destroying at AT-ST by tripping over logs? Lmao, get outta here.
If you keep everything the same in Jedi, but replace Ewoks with Wookies, and just make the battle more realistic and intense, you got yourself a masterpiece movie.
I'm sorry, but destroying at AT-ST by tripping over logs? Lmao, get outta here.
An army of practical effect wookies would be a sight.
The only issue is that they would kick so much ass that they would've just demolished that empire force within a few seconds. Fighting wookies in their home turf? Get out of here.
Defending Ewoks is one of the few times I’ll do this and I absolutely hate it when other people do it but....
You have no problem with a 6 foot tall talking squid piloting the rebel flagship but 4 foot tall gerbils using bows and arrows is terrible? Come on, man.
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If you keep everything the same in Jedi, but replace Ewoks with Wookies, and just make the battle more realistic and intense, you got yourself a masterpiece movie.
I'm sorry, but destroying at AT-ST by tripping over logs? Lmao, get outta here.
I'm not going to stand up for Ewoks, but I enjoyed the simple machines exposing the weaknesses of the super tech angle.
I agree with the pacing comments. There are just too many boring parts once they left Tatooine.
Of course I was a kid when I first watched it, so that gives it nostalgic lenience.
RoTJ taught me as a kid, that even when the good guys win, they aren't always happy about how it happened. That good guys can be flawed (Luke's story line) and that bad guys aren't always so bad.
It was just a great friggin movie guys.
And the Ewoks were awesome.
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Once again the Republic and their fans are willing to gloss over the massive war crimes committed by their "hero's"
I mean beyond the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent civilian workers, They basically used cannibalistic savages in a war, and nobody asks why there were empty helmets laying around, and very few prisoners being showed, mainly because the criminal terrorist organization paid off the Ewoks by feeding them the defeated Imperial Troops. At least the Wookies have a sense of honor.
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Defending Ewoks is one of the few times I’ll do this and I absolutely hate it when other people do it but....
You have no problem with a 6 foot tall talking squid piloting the rebel flagship but 4 foot tall gerbils using bows and arrows is terrible? Come on, man.
In a commanders role, any alien could do it if they have the mental capacity which Ackbar apparently does. Size doesn't matter.
Little furry gerbils with perhistoric weapons taking down AT-STs and troops units with training and advanced weapons is not equivalent.
The underdog theme is the goal here, I get it. And Ewoks sell toys. But again, a small band of rebel wookies banding together that fight fiercely using guerilla tactics to the death to bring down the empire would have a little more depth to it.
I like that Lucas brought back Hayden as Vader force ghost. How's that for unpopular opinion?
If anyone complains about the Ewoks in ROTJ, just show them the two standalone Ewok movies. They will be begging for the simpler "yubnub" times.
as a kid, I found the gorax and the mauraders legit scary, and really enjoyed the varied creature designs in both movies. the problem is that Mace and Cindel are whiny dumbasses that made you want to see them get stamped out by a blurrg.
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In a commanders role, any alien could do it if they have the mental capacity which Ackbar apparently does. Size doesn't matter.
Little furry gerbils with perhistoric weapons taking down AT-STs and troops units with training and advanced weapons is not equivalent.
The underdog theme is the goal here, I get it. And Ewoks sell toys. But again, a small band of rebel wookies banding together that fight fiercely using guerilla tactics to the death to bring down the empire would have a little more depth to it.
I like that Lucas brought back Hayden as Vader force ghost. How's that for unpopular opinion?
Agreed on the Wookies.
I'm not even going to address your other point. I'll just chalk it up to some sort of head trauma and ignore it completely.
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Once again the Republic and their fans are willing to gloss over the massive war crimes committed by their "hero's"
I mean beyond the indiscriminate slaughter of innocent civilian workers, They basically used cannibalistic savages in a war, and nobody asks why there were empty helmets laying around, and very few prisoners being showed, mainly because the criminal terrorist organization paid off the Ewoks by feeding them the defeated Imperial Troops. At least the Wookies have a sense of honor.
Oh look, we’ve “both sides”d the Battle Of Endor.
The Empire was building a planet-killing weapon. This wasn’t even the first time they’d tried.
And just to be that guy, the Ewoks are not cannibalistic. They’re very much not human, so unless we’ve got new footage of one Ewok eating another (we may well, I don’t watch these re-edits) I must call bull#### on ‘cannibalistic savages’.
They were defending their home from extraterrestrial invaders.
I hope those troopers were delicious.
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We really need to ponder the Imperial corp of engineers and scientists.
Build all of their structures with no hand rails, and controls in weird places like the top of a tower.
Build Star Destroyers with a quarter million main crew with shield generators that can be blown up with one shot and no secondary bridges.
Infantry gear that can be penetrated by primitive arrows, doesn't stop head trauma caused by rocks, and a helmet that's so obstructed and poorly designed that accuracy goes out the window.
The Empire wanted nothing more then to bring peace and order to a galaxy prone to chaos, but clearly their education system was somewhat lacking.
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We really need to ponder the Imperial corp of engineers and scientists.
Build all of their structures with no hand rails, and controls in weird places like the top of a tower.
Build Star Destroyers with a quarter million main crew with shield generators that can be blown up with one shot and no secondary bridges.
Infantry gear that can be penetrated by primitive arrows, doesn't stop head trauma caused by rocks, and a helmet that's so obstructed and poorly designed that accuracy goes out the window.
The Empire wanted nothing more then to bring peace and order to a galaxy prone to chaos, but clearly their education system was somewhat lacking.
Captain, I’m beginning to think the Star Wars universe doesn’t make any sense.
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