God, how I forgot that I'll never know. That whole episode "Passions" was one of the most brutal hours of television that I've ever seen.
There was always the belief by Buffy that somehow there was still Angel inside somewhere, but after that episode she knew.
The whole story line of Angelus is an amazing study of depravity and evil. When he was bought back in Angel, I watched an interview where they pretty much just left blank spots in the script and DB adlibbed. There was one scene where he calmly told Cordelia that he was going to rape her to death, he made similar threats against poor Fred as well.
But that scene with Jenny and then not even feeding on her, but leaving her corpse in Giles bed was brutal.
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These two always stood out to me, not necessarily because they were tough to watch, but that they were great characters and their murders were just so heavy.
Mike Ehrmantraut from Breaking Bad. Probably my favorite character in the Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul universe. I was seriously pissed off when this happened.
Bobby Baccallieri from The Sopranos. The guy who simply didn't belong in that world. His conversation with Tony on the boat in Soprano Home Movies was touching (and confirmed to me that Tony is murdered in the finale), and I still tear up in the final scene of that episode as he runs to his daughter after Tony forced him to make his first kill.
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Cap, surprised you haven't mentioned Doyle from Angel as well.
Certainly the show evolved past that first season, and that included him departing the show. But it was a shocking and sudden ending, made more tragic by the fact that the actor Glen Quinn, would go on to have a host of issues, including drugs, and up dying far too young.
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Yeah your right, and I think I did mention it briefly, Glen Quinn was extremely talented and he was so good in that role, and he went out a hero. I think a lot of people will agree that the most powerful moment about his death happened in the last season in the episode where Cordelia died. They watched that horrible Angel investigations ad that he made and Angel realized by the end of the episode how far he'd come and not in a good way.
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These two deaths, it was brutal in terms of the fall out.
For any Supernatural fans -- Bobby's death as tough. Granted, it wasn't the last of him on the show... still sucked. He was home to Dean and Sam, so losing him was huge.
Bobby's death on SOA.
Romano dies on ER. Just always thought it was sad that he was not liked and then he dies like this.
Andrea's death on Breaking Bad. So brutal that she died while he watched. She had nothing to do with it all. Left behind a kid.
A more obscure English show "This is England"....The guy who gets whacked was an absolute piece of crap. He'd redeemed himself slowly over time, but then the person he'd wronged "milky" was more or less forced to avenge. Milky goes through with it, but with very mixed feelings.
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House of Cards creator Beau Willimon commented on how audiences reacted to that dog scene in an interview with The Hollywood Reporter last year. “The double standards are laughable,” he said, “People had no problem seeing on House of Cards some of the ways people behaved emotionally or physically violent to one another. But we killed a dog in the first 30 seconds and people freaked out.”
Romano dies on ER. Just always thought it was sad that he was not liked and then he dies like this.
I always thought Ramano was a great character. He was hated, intense caustic and driven and a nasty piece of work, but he was a superb doctor in that show, and the scene when they lost Lucy his reaction was heart breaking.
I think his character was designed to be a caricature of a combination of the worse bosses everyone has ever had x 100. then the writers proceeded to torture him, cut off his arm via helicopter, reattach the arm, force him to have it cut off again and then drop a helicopter on him Wile E style.
But they did redeem him in the end when he left his money to the hospital and it went to a very good cause.
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I always thought Ramano was a great character. He was hated, intense caustic and driven and a nasty piece of work, but he was a superb doctor in that show, and the scene when they lost Lucy his reaction was heart breaking.
I think his character was designed to be a caricature of a combination of the worse bosses everyone has ever had x 100. then the writers proceeded to torture him, cut off his arm via helicopter, reattach the arm, force him to have it cut off again and then drop a helicopter on him Wile E style.
But they did redeem him in the end when he left his money to the hospital and it went to a very good cause.
ER had some really compelling deaths of main characters, many have been listed here
but the one that will always stick with me is that of the expecting mother in Love's Labor Lost, which I think is one of the most compelling episodes of TV (at least prior to the recent prestige TV era)
Derek Reece on Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (even though they undid it with the time jump). Just moving through the house and gets shot in the forehead. No last words, no drawn out scene just gone.
Caitlin Todd in NCIS. Just saved her boss' life from a sniper, stands up and, and right in the forehead.
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The specific reason I have not re-watched The Shield is because Dutch strangles a stray cat to death in an alley. Not sure I could make it through that scene again.
__________________ "It's a great day for hockey."
-'Badger' Bob Johnson (1931-1991)
"I see as much misery out of them moving to justify theirselves as them that set out to do harm." -Dr. Amos "Doc" Cochran
Derek Reece on Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (even though they undid it with the time jump). Just moving through the house and gets shot in the forehead. No last words, no drawn out scene just gone.
Caitlin Todd in NCIS. Just saved her boss' life from a sniper, stands up and, and right in the forehead.
Great call on Reece. Perhaps one of the most sudden and shocking deaths.
