Just saw it too! But... there isnt a post credit scene like they usually do?
but I cant help but feel that
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During the battle, They were all playing hot potato with the gauntlet with the infinity stones yet none of them dared to put it on and end the war. Nearly lost the whole thing when Thanos eventually retrieved it. All of them were too chicken to be the real hero
absolutely love that hawkeye had the gauntlet for like an hour, that was amazing
absolutely love that they went back to the ABSOLUTE BEST MCU movie, thor 2, and that NATALIE FREAKING PORTMAN was in it
cap wielding mjolnir was just terrific
i actually liked it less than infinity war but damn it if it wasn't satisfying
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For me overall I still like Infinity War better but I think it may just be that I still need time to digest so much that was happening...can see it growing on me at second watch.
But for me I didn’t quite have the “OMG that was awesome” feeling I had right after Infinity War.
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This was definitely a case where the hype I created for myself following Infinity War was insurmountable no matter what movie Endgame would be. So I feel a little empty after this one, even though it was a solid finale.
For a 3 hour film it sure seemed rushed. Everything just moved so quickly, and IMO there was too much levity. They tried to balance the sorrow, desperation, and humor but I felt I was chuckling a bit too often for a film with this kind of weight. With that said, in true Marvel fashion the humor fit and didn't feel forced or awkward.
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I think what I was most disappointed about was Captain Marvel's limited use in the film. I was really looking forward to seeing that character interact more, and I was left wanting more when she faced off with Thanos.
Speaking of Thanos, I felt they really undid a lot of the work they had done on the character in the first film. I get that it's part of the time shift and the character from the past wouldn't have been as developed, but he just felt hollow. And he wasn't nearly as imposing.
Favorite parts were Captain wheeling the hammer, Spider-Man's entrance, Dr. Strange giving Tony the indication they were in the optimal timeline, and the set-up for a Thor + GOTG film (that's going to be fantastic). However, the best part was seeing Captain sitting on the bench and knowing that he went back to live the life he lost. That got me right in the feels.
Tony Stark's death was really well done. It felt so gritty and real. I had a feeling it was coming, so it didn't hit me as much as some of the other stuff. The entire theatre was filled with the sound of sniffles during the funeral scene.
On the other hand, Romanoff's death had no impact at all. Maybe the character needed her own standalone film, I don't know. Just didn't have the weight it probably should have. Reading some reviews this morning it seems I'm not the only one that feels they failed that character in the film.
I'm surprised there weren't more character exits in the end, actually. Final tally ends up being Vision, Black Widow, Loki, and Iron Man. I guess Captain America too, in a way. Did I miss anyone?
Not as incredible as Infinity War, and not as satisfying as I had hoped, but still a damn good finale to this phase of the MCU films.
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This was definitely a case where the hype I created for myself following Infinity War was insurmountable no matter what movie Endgame would be. So I feel a little empty after this one, even though it was a solid finale.
For a 3 hour film it sure seemed rushed. Everything just moved so quickly, and IMO there was too much levity. They tried to balance the sorrow, desperation, and humor but I felt I was chuckling a bit too often for a film with this kind of weight. With that said, in true Marvel fashion the humor fit and didn't feel forced or awkward.
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I think what I was most disappointed about was Captain Marvel's limited use in the film. I was really looking forward to seeing that character interact more, and I was left wanting more when she faced off with Thanos.
Speaking of Thanos, I felt they really undid a lot of the work they had done on the character in the first film. I get that it's part of the time shift and the character from the past wouldn't have been as developed, but he just felt hollow. And he wasn't nearly as imposing.
Favorite parts were Captain wheeling the hammer, Spider-Man's entrance, Dr. Strange giving Tony the indication they were in the optimal timeline, and the set-up for a Thor + GOTG film (that's going to be fantastic). However, the best part was seeing Captain sitting on the bench and knowing that he went back to live the life he lost. That got me right in the feels.
Tony Stark's death was really well done. It felt so gritty and real. I had a feeling it was coming, so it didn't hit me as much as some of the other stuff. The entire theatre was filled with the sound of sniffles during the funeral scene.
On the other hand, Romanoff's death had no impact at all. Maybe the character needed her own standalone film, I don't know. Just didn't have the weight it probably should have. Reading some reviews this morning it seems I'm not the only one that feels they failed that character in the film.
I'm surprised there weren't more character exits in the end, actually. Final tally ends up being Vision, Black Widow, Loki, and Iron Man. I guess Captain America too, in a way. Did I miss anyone?
Not as incredible as Infinity War, and not as satisfying as I had hoped, but still a damn good finale to this phase of the MCU films.
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I don't know, I mean I love the idea of Steve Rogers and Peggy Carter. But by going back, he killed off a long marriage and family that she had.
He also could have prevented the penetration of shield by Hydra and didn't.
It was lovely in terms of the whole man goes back and reshapes the past for the woman he loves, but he allows untold suffering to happen to do it.
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Engame may be my favorite movie of all-time, though I have to give it some time to digest a little. I can't remember the last time I left a theater with so many emotions running through me
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I felt Tony's death was coming so I thought I was prepared, but when the camera panned to his little girl holding back tears watching his final message I completely broke down, full on water works. Having a little girl of my own just made that such a huge punch in the gut, and I'm still a bit of a mess from it an hour later
As someone who has been invested in this universe right from the start with Iron Man, Endgame was the perfect culmination, and I'm far more satisfied than I thought I would be. It better damn well be at least nominated for Best Picture next year, it's one of the greatest cinematic events in history
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Speaking of Thanos, I felt they really undid a lot of the work they had done on the character in the first film. I get that it's part of the time shift and the character from the past wouldn't have been as developed, but he just felt hollow. And he wasn't nearly as imposing.
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I think this was by design. This wasn't the Thanos from the first movie, it was a Thanos from a different universe / timeline.
The Thanos we saw was a Thanos that had grief and remorse. Both his daughters had turned on him, he had sacrificed Gamora, and he seemed to be more remorseful about his action overall but knew it was his destiny.
This Thanos was different. He was still more in his "world destroyer" phase where he was happy to go and execute half the population with brute force. He then saw that while he was victorious in the "main timeline" his plan didn't work, he ended up dead, and saw that the universe was actually worse off post snap.
He now had a different goal - to eliminate all life and crush the Avengers.
It's funny because we all liked the Thanos in Infinity War that showed some character growth from the guy that ruthlessly attacked Thor at the start to the end of the movie, to the guy that was consoling Scarlet Witch at the end of the movie. This Thanos didn't have that character growth so was more of a one note villian, and maybe didn't work as well because we already saw the better version.
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I don't know, I mean I love the idea of Steve Rogers and Peggy Carter. But by going back, he killed off a long marriage and family that she had.
He also could have prevented the penetration of shield by Hydra and didn't.
It was lovely in terms of the whole man goes back and reshapes the past for the woman he loves, but he allows untold suffering to happen to do it.
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There is actually a bit of room for interpretation here and we actually don't know how they handled this.
If you believe that Steve didn't time travel again at the end and was in this universe from when he was with Peggy then there is the theory that this was always the plan all along.
When Peggy references her husband and kids on her death bed she was referencing this Steve Rogers. She was a spy and Rogers could have potentially told her the whole story. It was always the fate of this timeline for Rogers to go back and be with Peggy. I think it would also make sense as to why in the alternate timeline Agent Carter who would have been ~45 in that timeline still had Steve Rogers picture on her desk instead of her husband - it was always him (Personally think this works but don't really like it).
The other theory is that Steve somehow traveled back to the Main timeline without going through Hulk's portal. There were other Quantum Portals at that point in time so it was possible. Since it appeared that Bucky was aware that Cap was going to stay in the past it's possible there is something different that occurred that we didn't see.
Personally I think the way they ended it was actually poor. They set it up already with the line being "As much time as he needs, and it will feel like 10 seconds for us" They should have had him just come through the portal as the Old Man, think it would have actually been more impactful and just shows that he took his time in the past, and would have kept the time travel rules consistent with no room for interpretation, opposed to leaving a bit of a loose end that we have now.
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The multiple side quests were not too riveting, aside from the trip to 1970 and Thor's heart to heart with his mom, but still watchable.
Hawkeye and Widow fighting to make the sacrifice was awkward since it was kind of funny, then very suddenly very sad.
The trying to explain the complications of time travel conversation with time stone lady and Hulk wasn't even necessary, since they discarded that later for a rather simple resolution.
The heroes took the whole getting nuked thing without much confusion, when they weren't expecting Thanos and his fleet at all since past Nebula was working in secret. You'd think they would've had a collective "oh ####" moment. That would've helped build up the final act, which for something so epic came about so suddenly.
If Iron Man could nab the stones and make his own makeshift gauntlet to snap the enemies to dust, could that not have just been done in IW? He surely would've been willing then, too.
Where they slam dunked it:
Thicc Thor. It worked the whole film. Killed me the first 5 minutes. Almost couldn't believe they didn't have him "disappear" to slim down and come back like normal, they stuck with it.
Cap taking on Thanos 1v1 and holding his own with the hammer.
Hawkeye finally got to shine too. Giving him an important role in the fight for those 10 minutes or so was a treat.
The limited use of Captain Marvel. They picked her moments just right. And she didn't make the rest of them look disposable. Her entrance to the final battle was perfect.
The sendoffs of Tony and Cap. Both well done, about as well as they possible could've drawn it up. Carried a lot of weight, but also tasteful. Honored both characters.
Paul Rudd's role and Tony's family life were also effective and enjoyable.
Continuing to build up Thanos, but this time dissolving any sympathy for him. Great villain.
A lot of fun. Will be memorable for its endings. Not the greatest film ever, but a solid 8 with many payoffs.
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Good movie. Not a huge Marvel fanboy but I’ve really enjoyed a few of the more recent instalments in the MCU.
Also, why are we spoiler tagging things still...? I understand for the first page in case of an accidental click but come on, the point of this thread is to discuss spoilers. I refuse to go out of my way to save others from their own stupidity.
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