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Old 01-07-2014, 10:00 AM   #421
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So looks like the concensus is that everyone loves the Nash pick eh?
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:01 AM   #422
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Agreed, but if he didn't make 2010, he wasn't making this year, simply due to age.

But its dumb. He belongs there far more than either Kunitz or Nash.
I still defend Nash. St. Louis and Nash aren't fighting for the same role. Nash is great internationally.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:01 AM   #423
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Kunitz is a top ten scorer this year. Tell me why he doesn't belong?
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:01 AM   #424
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This is the first I'm hearing of this, but some posts have alluded to dressing and having 13 forwards on the bench and 7 defensemen? So the bench will have 20 skaters instead of 18? Theoretically, PK Subban could sit as the 7th defenseman and come out just for PP time and the other 6 defensemen can just be in their regular rotation?

If so, I understand the Subban selection better.
Smarter people than you realize Subban is an asset not a liability. He's going to be a star in this tournament, not a lightning rod.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:01 AM   #425
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I think he's super high risk and he's going to get abused if exposed to some other team's top lines. I would have him as a PP specialist only. Otherwise he can trade off with Luongo or Price opening the door for the rest of his team.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:01 AM   #426
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:01 AM   #427
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There's no blind hate, it is what it is. A great trade for St. Louis and a good one for Calgary. Bowmeester cannot be the go to guy on his pairing, but he is a world class complimentary piece. In Calgary he was paid and brought in to be the man, the go to guy...........he was not up to the task. In St. Louis, he ride shotgun on the top pairing, which is clearly what he's best suited for.

He will get to do the same on Team Canada, so it's a good pick. Only question mark is will he perform under the pressure, time will tell.
Yup fair trade, Olympian for an Olympian.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:02 AM   #428
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So going with the chemistry thing for lines: (and assuming Bergeron ends up 4th line center)

Kunitz - Crosby - ??????
Sharp - Toews - ??????
?????? - Getzlaf - Perry
????? - Bergeron - ??????

Left shots -> Tavares, Marleau, Duchene, Benn, Nash
Right shots -> Stamkos, Carter
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Yeah St Louis got jobbed. I never even considered that he wouldn't be on the team.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:02 AM   #430
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Bongo of course they select him but I still hope Price outplays him.
D is extremely solid. Vlacic is still a surprise pick for me and not big on the Hamhuis pick.

Carter I didn't think would make it but no complaints. Kunitz is on the team mostly because of Crosby.

No Oilers lol I can cheer for this squad.
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Martin St. Louis asking for a trade from Canada..
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:02 AM   #432
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Smarter people than you realize Subban is an asset not a liability. He's going to be a star in this tournament, not a lightning rod.
Smarter people than me with the exception of Kevin Lowe.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:03 AM   #433
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I'm a better skater than Carter and yet they chose him for the big ice?

Such a mistake.
While Giroux definitely should have been on the team, there's too much Carter hate.

He's a leading scorer in the league over the last five years. And he makes extremely timely goals. Big ice surface or not, you still need big players to park themselves in front of the net.
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This defense is spectacular. If Subban actually is playing with Doughty, that's our #1 pairing by the end of this tournament.
Doubtful they will play two right handed guys together the way they have gone out of their way to have 4 LD and 4 RD on the team.

Plus no way is Subban playing against other teams top line.
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Yup, 13 fowards and 7 defensemen can be dressed. 20 skaters total.
20 skaters and 2 goalies.

They do not have to dress any particular number of F and/ or D.

The total number of skaters , simply, cannot exceed 20.
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left handed shot.. is there a better one?
No. I guess not.

It seems strange, because last couple of years I don't think I question this but this year he has been down right dreadful. He's had absolutely no ability to deal with outside speed and on a big ice surface? Hopefully this nomination gives him a kick in the pants.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:04 AM   #437
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Martin St. Louis asking for a trade from Canada..

maybe they should have a Quebec team in the next World Cup in 2017 or wheenver they can do it.
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Old 01-07-2014, 10:04 AM   #438
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Had you made team Canada just based on points...

Forwards:
Crosby
Tavares
Getzlaf
Thornton
Kunitz
Sharp
Perry
Toews
Seguin
Marleau
Hall
St.Louis
Duchene
Giroux

Defense
Keith
Subban
Seabrook
Pietrangelo
Weber
Bouwmeester
Garrison
Doughty

It is actually pretty close to the real team, and outside of Garrison I would have been okay with all the picks.
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Agreed, but if he didn't make 2010, he wasn't making this year, simply due to age.

But its dumb. He belongs there far more than either Kunitz or Nash.
It sounds like from the interviews that St. Louis came down to the wire, and it was a very tough decision for Stevie Y... not saying that helps, but Yzerman did what he thinks is best for the team.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out. There is no coaches Dad drama with Team Canada that is for sure.. lol
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So going with the chemistry thing for lines: (and assuming Bergeron ends up 4th line center)

Kunitz - Crosby - ??????
Sharp - Toews - ??????
?????? - Getzlaf - Perry
????? - Bergeron - ??????

Left shots -> Tavares, Marleau, Duchene, Benn, Nash
Right shots -> Stamkos, Carter
I think Bergeron plays RW on the Toews line or is the 13th forward taking defensive zone draws and PKer.

Tavares will be other center.
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