2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Phagoof]

Originally Posted by Nelson

What do people think Jimmy Howard would cost? I'd be interested in him.

Apparently they want a 1st. I wouldn't be interested for anything more then a 3rd. They couldn't give him away a couple seasons ago.

[MacDaddy77]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Here is an ideal goalie fix imo.

To philly: Talbot, 5th
To Oilers: Elliott

Oilers get out of the cap problem so they can activate Sekera and get a goalie Hitch knows from his Blues days. Philly squeezes the extra pick because the Oilers are over a barrel

To CGY: Talbot
To Philly: Smith 3rd

Calgary shores up their goaltending and Philly turns Elliott into a 3rd and 5th

I posted something along this thinking earlier

Originally Posted by MacDaddy77

Oilers trade Talbot to Flyers

Flyers trade Talbot to Flames for Smith and 2020 2nd.

Talbot wins Conn Smythe for Flames.

E=NG

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Nelson

What do people think Jimmy Howard would cost? I'd be interested in him.

The rumor is that a 1st round pick starts the discussion. It's possible that we'd have to add if the pick is going to be hovering 25-30.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

If the Flames are legitimately looking at Quick, their faith in the existing tandem must be close to non-existent.

That's not a contract/player you acquire if you have any belief in the goalies in your system to do anything in the next 3 years.

The Flames can't even afford his contract for next season. It would put this team in an even bigger cap crunch then they'll already be in. Unless James Neal goes the other way, the math just doesn't work.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Here is an ideal goalie fix imo.

To philly: Talbot, 5th
To Oilers: Elliott

Oilers get out of the cap problem so they can activate Sekera and get a goalie Hitch knows from his Blues days. Philly squeezes the extra pick because the Oilers are over a barrel

To CGY: Talbot
To Philly: Smith 3rd

Calgary shores up their goaltending and Philly turns Elliott into a 3rd and 5th

Sportsnet says that Philly wants to keep Talbot as him and Hart are buddies and they think he'd be a good mentor/caddy.

I think the Flames would be more likely to get Neuvirth from Philly. If they trade for Talbot him and Hart will be their tandem. Stolarz, Neuvirth and Lyon will be available I bet for the right price.

[Since1984]

Originally Posted by Phagoof

Apparently they want a 1st. I wouldn't be interested for anything more then a 3rd. They couldn't give him away a couple seasons ago.

That is because he was coming off a terrible year with a couple years left of term.

I'd give up a conditional 3rd + Mike Smith,

1st condition: If Howard starts X number of games in the playoffs and the Flames make it to the Western Conference Semi-Final it turns into a 2020 second.

2nd Condition: If Howards starts X number of games and the Flames make it to the Stanley Cup Final the pick is our 2019 first.

[getbak]

Nilsson would be my target for a goalie. He has put up good numbers on an awful Senators team and the cost shouldn't be too high.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Sportsnet says that Philly wants to keep Talbot as him and Hart are buddies and they think he'd be a good mentor/caddy.

We always hear this one trades but how often does it really happen? Hamonic was supposed to get us Tavares according to some, or Gaudreau and Hayes, or Iginla and Doan.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

Toffoli isn’t even that good. 27 points in 56 games for a top 6 guy isn’t very good, no matter where you’re playing. Combine that with a declining Quick who has lots of term remaining on his deal, and you’re overpaying. I don’t want to give 1sts, good prospects and decent roster players just to get these guys

He is having a down year. Most of the team is having a down year. Toffoli is a top 6 player. He has been good for around 45 points on a team that didn't play an offensive style. He would produce more on a team that properly plays an offensive style game.

[Duffalufagus]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

The rumor is that a 1st round pick starts the discussion. It's possible that we'd have to add if the pick is going to be hovering 25-30.

way too expensive for a UFA 35 year old goalie. The ask will come down, but you'll have to wait until the deadline to pull the trigger.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by getbak

Nilsson would be my target for a goalie. He has put up good numbers on an awful Senators team and the cost shouldn't be too high.

Good throw in for the Stone trade

[Duffalufagus]

I love the idea of landing Stone, but the cost is going to be ridiculous for a rental. I bet it would take Janko/Bennett, Kylington a 1st and a 2nd. That is bananas for a rental.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

I love the idea of landing Stone, but the cost is going to be ridiculous for a rental. I bet it would take Janko/Bennett, Kylington a 1st and a 2nd. That is bananas for a rental.

There is no way Treliving doesn’t have a plan to sign Stone if he makes the trade.

He won’t be a rental to the Flames. Stop saying this (everybody). To say this is like you aren’t even following the team or the direction they’re going.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

I love the idea of landing Stone, but the cost is going to be ridiculous for a rental. I bet it would take Janko/Bennett, Kylington a 1st and a 2nd. That is bananas for a rental.

Everyone seems to assume he's being re-signed but I don't know why. Why wouldn't he explore the market? The Flames could give him 8 years instead of 7 but would they even want to go to age 36?

[Duffalufagus]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

There is no way Treliving doesn’t have a plan to sign Stone if he makes the trade.

He won’t be a rental to the Flames. Stop saying this (everybody). To say this is like you aren’t even following the team or the direction they’re going.

Of course he will be a rental. Why would he give up his off-season bargaining leverage without testing the market?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Everyone seems to assume he's being re-signed but I don't know why. Why wouldn't he explore the market? The Flames could give him 8 years instead of 7 but would they even want to go to age 36?

Treliving won't trade for him unless he's re-signing. Lebrun is saying if Calgary acquires him, it won't be as a rental.

So...as far as rumours go, we go with what we hear.

If the Flames acquire Stone, it won't be as a rental.

[Duffalufagus]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Treliving won't trade for him unless he's re-signing. Lebrun is saying if Calgary acquires him, it won't be as a rental.

So...as far as rumours go, we go with what we hear.

If the Flames acquire Stone, it won't be as a rental.

If that is true, then you are almost certainly going to overpay. His agent should be fired if he lets him sign without testing the market. The Flames would also have to move out significant pieces to sign Stone and Tkachuk for what will almost certainly be long term deals at a cumulative aav >17mm

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Duffalufagus

Of course he will be a rental. Why would he give up his off-season bargaining leverage without testing the market?

Then the Flames aren’t in the market for him.

The only thing to debate here is the direction they would go to make room. They aren’t trading the pieces that would be required to get Stone without signing him.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Treliving won't trade for him unless he's re-signing. Lebrun is saying if Calgary acquires him, it won't be as a rental.

So...as far as rumours go, we go with what we hear.

If the Flames acquire Stone, it won't be as a rental.

Well, that's good, but way more difficult to actually do. Is Ottawa even giving teams permission to talk to Stone about extensions? Last I heard they still weren't sure about not doing it themselves, and they wouldn't give him the chance to have other teams negotiating against their offer.

The best way, I suppose, would be to have conditions around the trade, like with Kane.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by getbak

Nilsson would be my target for a goalie. He has put up good numbers on an awful Senators team and the cost shouldn't be too high.

Exactly my thoughts. This organization has targeted all the big names in the last half decade. The Hillers, the Elliotts, the Smiths and now the Howards and the Quicks. These big names have not worked out for us. How about we target some of the lesser known guys now especially since the cost of acquisition would be lower.

I mean, the most successful goaltenders the Flames have had recently were no name guys like Ramo, Chad Johnson to a lesser extent and now Rittich.