Calgarypuck Prospect Ranking 2019 - Starting List

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I don't know Mitchell Mattson might give the Defector players a run for their money. He certainly is the least talented player on the list.

Oh great, now Scorpion is going to irrationally vote for him early because he likes his underdogs.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Can we start the voting after the prospect camp? Gives everyone a better perspective

I'm good with that.

Is that overall sentiment on timing?

[Reggie Dunlop]

Also a suggestion: Limit it to Top 20, perhaps? Do we really need debate on the merits of 29th to 30th?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Also a suggestion: Limit it to Top 20, perhaps? Do we really need debate on the merits of 29th to 30th?

What else are we going to do. That will happen in early august, and will be the only hockey talk around. Not to mention some of the players ranked that low become NHLers

2016
31. Rittich

2015
21. Andrew Mangiapane
23. Garnet Hathaway

2014
35. Josh Jooris

2013
25.Kulak
26.Ferland

[Fire]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Also a suggestion: Limit it to Top 20, perhaps? Do we really need debate on the merits of 29th to 30th?

Yes, yes we do.

[Cheese]

Year x Year prospect ranking

[getbak]

If you take Mangiapane off the list because he has graduated and Foo and Karnaukhov off because they're KHL defects, that makes the list 30 players long. That seems like a fine size.

[getbak]

Another way to look at who has graduated or not is to look at who played in the playoffs.

• Mangiapane and Andersson played all 5 games in the playoffs = Graduated
• Valimaki played 2 games in the playoffs and Dube and Kylington played no games in the playoffs = Not Graduated

I think there's a very good chance that Valimaki, Dube, and Kylington have all played their last AHL games, but I also think it's perfectly fine for them to be put in the prospects ranking because they are still prospects who haven't fully established themselves in the NHL.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by getbak

Another way to look at who has graduated or not is to look at who played in the playoffs.

• Mangiapane and Andersson played all 5 games in the playoffs = Graduated
• Valimaki played 2 games in the playoffs and Dube and Kylington played no games in the playoffs = Not Graduated

I think there's a very good chance that Valimaki, Dube, and Kylington have all played their last AHL games, but I also think it's perfectly fine for them to be put in the prospects ranking because they are still prospects who haven't fully established themselves in the NHL.

True, but Tyler Wotherspoon played 6 games in the playoffs and then couldn't make the opening roster for the next 2 years.

Other than that, it's usually a pretty sure-thing.

[PlayfulGenius]

I think Foo should still be considered, as the Flames have his rights... I'd simply expect him to be WAY down at the bottom of the list.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius

I think Foo should still be considered, as the Flames have his rights... I'd simply expect him to be WAY down at the bottom of the list.

Initially I thought the same but when you factor in age, the contract in Russia, etc - he's not a prospect much. Even if he returns he's now a journeyman pro and not so much a prospect.

[getbak]

If Foo is planning to stay in China through the Olympics, that's three seasons away. He'll be 28 then.

[cannon7]

Guess I wasn't paying close attention, just learning the Flames don't have Joly's rights.

[PlayfulGenius]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Initially I thought the same but when you factor in age, the contract in Russia, etc - he's not a prospect much. Even if he returns he's now a journeyman pro and not so much a prospect.

fair enough... I don't actually know how old he is... but I agree, there should be an age cut-off.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Also a suggestion: Limit it to Top 20, perhaps? Do we really need debate on the merits of 29th to 30th?

Can't break tradition.

Even when the list doesn't look as sexy anymore and doesn't require much rebuttal about your vote I just simply click on the player I vote and then get out of the thread after reading a few replies.

[Bingo]

So the list as it stands ...

Adam Ruzicka
Alexander Yelesin
Andrew Nielsen
Artyom Zagidulin
Carl-Johan Lerby
Demetrios Koumontzis
Dillon Dube
Dmitry Zavgorodniy
Dustin Wolf
Eetu Tuulola
Filip Sveningsson
Glenn Gawdin
Ilya Nikolaev
Jakob Pelletier
Jon Gillies
Josh Nodler
Justin Kirkland
Juuso Valimaki
Linus Lindstrom
Lucas Feuk
Luke Philp
Martin Pospisil
Mathias Emilio Pettersen
Matthew Phillips
Milos Roman
Mitchell Mattson
Nick Schneider
Oliver Kylington
Pavel Karnaukhov
Rinat Valiev
Ryan Lomberg
Spencer Foo
Tyler Parsons

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Alphabetical by first name.

You monster.

[savardandjokinen]

To me, I still feel Rafikov should technically be on this list, as he's 24. I know it's unlikely he comes over but Russians do start coming over around 25-27, so it's possible that could change.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by savardandjokinen

To me, I still feel Rafikov should technically be on this list, as he's 24. I know it's unlikely he comes over but Russians do start coming over around 25-27, so it's possible that could change.

I disagree. This list should be for prospects who have a realistic chance of playing for Calgary. Rafikov has pretty much no chance of ever playing for the Flames or being traded. He’s not in the Flames plans and they aren’t in his plans. He’s an easy guy to ignore. He’s irrelevant in my opinion, he’s not a legit NHL prospect of ours. The whole voting process is just confused by having guys like that on the list who are only “technically” related to the Flames but aren’t actually a legit prospect of the Flames.

[puckedoff]

Big Z

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Everybody else