09-23-2013, 12:31 PM
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#2001
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by polak
Yeah I guess. I don't know, I guess I'm not a fan of the idea that Walt kills himself. Seems sort of anti-climactic. I hope Jessie or someone in his family pulls the trigger.
Can you imagine if it was Walt Jr.?
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Ugh, no I can't imagine that. If you want shock and awe TV watch True Blood or something.
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09-23-2013, 12:41 PM
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#2002
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Ugh, no I can't imagine that. If you want shock and awe TV watch True Blood or something.
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Walt Jr. might have been a bit extreme but Marie could do it.
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09-23-2013, 12:46 PM
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#2003
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I can't help but think of what Jesse told Hank just before the desert shootout. Whatever you think is supposed to happen, the opposite will happen. Only this time, I am expecting Jesse to have the luck.
I think Walt plans on using the ricin on himself, but Jesse will switch it out with something else. I can see Walt hoping to take it once in custody but then not finding it. I am expecting Walt to get locked up and at the very end, a prison doctor telling him that he is back in remission.
For some reason, I am also expecting the fixer to get the money from New Hampsire to Skylar. He never said that he wouldn't.
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09-23-2013, 12:47 PM
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#2004
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Ugh, no I can't imagine that. If you want shock and awe TV watch True Blood or something.
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Agreed, having someone from the family kill him would be idiotic. Jesse is a possibility, but even then I just can't picture a way that it happens.
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09-23-2013, 12:56 PM
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#2005
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In the Sin Bin
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Less idiotic then characters whose development before this season consisted of a grand total of 2 minutes of screen time? Jack and Todd are basically randoms in the grand scheme of the show.
Might as well have Bogdon come back and kill Walt for screwing him out of the car wash. Hell, Ted Beneke would be a better choice.
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09-23-2013, 12:57 PM
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#2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I can't help but think of what Jesse told Hank just before the desert shootout. Whatever you think is supposed to happen, the opposite will happen. Only this time, I am expecting Jesse to have the luck.
I think Walt plans on using the ricin on himself, but Jesse will switch it out with something else. I can see Walt hoping to take it once in custody but then not finding it. I am expecting Walt to get locked up and at the very end, a prison doctor telling him that he is back in remission.
For some reason, I am also expecting the fixer to get the money from New Hampsire to Skylar. He never said that he wouldn't.
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I don't understand this fixer guy, is he the one person in the criminal underworld with ethics? He takes Walt out to the middle of nowhere, no prying eyes, barrel full of money in plain site (far more than what Walt is paying him), and he doesn't just kill Walt and take it? Even if he's not a violent guy what's stopping him from just taking the money and leaving? Cancer ridden Walt couldn't stop him physically, and he doesn't have a gun that I've seen. It just doesn't add up
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09-23-2013, 01:06 PM
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#2007
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Originally Posted by polak
Less idiotic then characters whose development before this season consisted of a grand total of 2 minutes of screen time? Jack and Todd are basically randoms in the grand scheme of the show.
Might as well have Bogdon come back and kill Walt for screwing him out of the car wash. Hell, Ted Beneke would be a better choice.
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Alan Sepinwall addressed this pretty well in his latest article on Breaking Bad. They're here to erase the glamour of the business.
http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-wat...tate-no-escape
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09-23-2013, 01:18 PM
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#2008
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
I don't understand this fixer guy, is he the one person in the criminal underworld with ethics? He takes Walt out to the middle of nowhere, no prying eyes, barrel full of money in plain site (far more than what Walt is paying him), and he doesn't just kill Walt and take it? Even if he's not a violent guy what's stopping him from just taking the money and leaving? Cancer ridden Walt couldn't stop him physically, and he doesn't have a gun that I've seen. It just doesn't add up
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I got the impression that he is just waiting for Walt to die. Then he will take the money. This way he still gets rich but doesn't have to burden himself with the guilt of killing Walt. Who knows though? Maybe he is just waiting for Walt to get a little bit weaker before making a move.
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09-23-2013, 01:21 PM
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#2009
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by nik-
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That's one guy's opinion though. And if anything, they are primitive hitmen and not meth businessmen. Nothing to take glamour off there.
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09-23-2013, 01:23 PM
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#2010
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My face is a bum!
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Originally Posted by polak
Less idiotic then characters whose development before this season consisted of a grand total of 2 minutes of screen time? Jack and Todd are basically randoms in the grand scheme of the show.
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At one point Gus was a minor character.
So was Lydia.
I don't understand what is so horrible about introducing new characters throughout the series as the landscape of the meth business changes.
Jack and Todd have now been in many episodes and had a lot of screen time. They are no longer fringe characters at all. What is so horrible about new characters coming in the last two seasons and having major impact on the story line?
As Walt took out his opposition to maintain his status/move up (Emilio, Krazy 8,Tuco, The rival dealers, Gus, Mike) there was always going to be someone else taking a shot at his business, as it's obviously very lucrative. Someone had to be last, and I don't get the grip that it's these guys? He's kind of taken out everyone else, and they are the most recent to go after his business.
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09-23-2013, 01:23 PM
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#2011
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary
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Why does everyone think the supremacists are just fillers...random characters. Walt hired them to pull off the prison killings and then do other dirty work for him. He brought them into his life and in the underworld there's always someone wanting to take what you have. The Cartel did it to Gus, Gus did it to the Cartel, Walt did it to Tueco (sp?) and Gus. Now it's only natural that it is being taken from him by the guys he brought in.
I think it's a perfectly natural progression of the story. In hindsight it's a bad decision by Walt to get mixed up with them. Mike was right Walt ruined everything by trying to be "The Man".
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09-23-2013, 01:38 PM
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#2012
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Originally Posted by Red
That's one guy's opinion though. And if anything, they are primitive hitmen and not meth businessmen. Nothing to take glamour off there.
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Well, that's sort of the point, there are no "meth businessmen", there are thugs who deal meth.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
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09-23-2013, 01:41 PM
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#2013
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Lifetime Suspension
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The prison gang is the perfect allegory to making a deal with the devil. In saving himself by using them Walt has ruined everything. They're also just a larger metaphor of the drug business. You can't be in the business without these types of guys around and sooner or later they'll bite you.
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09-23-2013, 01:49 PM
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#2014
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In the Sin Bin
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I would be completely fine with the nazis being another Gus or Tuco, but the series should end with a climax between one of the main characters. Hank is gone so Jessie is the only one left.
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09-23-2013, 03:28 PM
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#2015
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN
Felina.
FE(iron)=Blood
LI(lithium)=Meth
NA(sodium)=Tears
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Also 'Felina' is an anagram for 'Finale'.
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09-23-2013, 03:44 PM
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#2016
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Anyone else read that Felina is an anagram for Finale? Don't think I've seen it posted yet.
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09-23-2013, 03:48 PM
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#2017
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by trackercowe
Anyone else read that Felina is an anagram for Finale? Don't think I've seen it posted yet.
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Oops, looks like it was posted once or twice before...
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09-23-2013, 03:53 PM
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#2018
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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It's also the feminine version of "feline" in Spanish. I can't imagine where that meaning would come into play though.
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09-23-2013, 03:54 PM
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#2019
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by trackercowe
Anyone else read that Felina is an anagram for Finale? Don't think I've seen it posted yet.
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La Fine is also "The End" in Italian.
Coincidence?!!?!
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09-23-2013, 04:06 PM
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#2020
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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I personally think Todd's role in the show from one of the guys on the fumigation crew to where he is now has been fascinating. All the while this seemingly nice, genuine, ethical kid is a psychopath.
Once he killed Drew Sharpe I knew there's way more to Todd than meets the eye. He's able to commit these brutal crimes yet he does so in a manner that doesn't make you hate the guy. A brilliant character.
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