07-22-2019, 07:51 PM
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#301
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It's not easy being green!
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the tubes to Vancouver Island
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I’m actually reasonably satisfied that this is a fair deal for the city. I’m concerned about this in combination with the uncertainty around the green line, but in isolation, this looks good for the city and Flames.
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Who is in charge of this product and why haven't they been fired yet?
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07-22-2019, 07:55 PM
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#302
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Frankly I am surprised on the positive reaction in this thread, I was expecting to come into this thread hearing from 50% of posters saying how bad this deal is for the city. Good to see.
No property taxes for CSEC but they pay all expenses with running the arena.
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07-22-2019, 07:59 PM
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#303
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Franchise Player
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It's about time...
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07-22-2019, 07:59 PM
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#304
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It's not easy being green!
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the tubes to Vancouver Island
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Tentative Agreement Reached! New Arena!
Double post
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Last edited by kermitology; 07-22-2019 at 08:01 PM.
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07-22-2019, 08:00 PM
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#305
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Originally Posted by Bunk
This is phenomenal news. It shows that proper process is needed to get good results. I am glad the City rejected the previous proposal. Great leadership by Davison in setting the right tone and right process to have productive, collaborative talks. Bravo for having CMLC at the centre of it all to ensure what’s actually built will be something not just good for a team but for the community, district and the city at large. I have full faith it’ll be best in class in terms of the building and how it anchors a district. All this has paid off tremendously so far.
Look forward to working in this project and district approvals in my job, which I start at the City tomorrow. :-)
A great day.
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Congratulations dude, the city (and the project) is lucky to have you!
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07-22-2019, 08:02 PM
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#306
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dying4acup
Red Square?
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The Fire Pit
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07-22-2019, 08:03 PM
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#307
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Has anyone seen anything on what the Stampede's involvement is? The land is "Stampede land" which the city expropriated for them years ago. Is the city paying the Stampede for the land? Concerned that Stampede is going to make $ for sitting on their butts as far as their promised development of that land.
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07-22-2019, 08:03 PM
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#308
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Also interesting that there is doesn't seem to be taking a loan and then paying it back via the ticket tax.
While the city's facility fee is essentially a ticket tax, there is no mention of a loan being taken out.
The CalgaryNext and 2017 proposals had clearly marked loans repaid by ticket taxes.
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07-22-2019, 08:08 PM
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#309
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Hyperbole Chamber
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This is even better than 50/50.
City and CSEC each pay 50% up front but then each side looks to get roughly 28% back (over 35 years mind you) through the facility fee.
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07-22-2019, 08:08 PM
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#310
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Yokohama
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Is there anything on a football field or this a separate discussion. Sorry if I missed something but couldn't find anything on this but know there was a discussion around a field house at one point.
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07-22-2019, 08:09 PM
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#311
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Rando
The discussion was a couple pages back, too lazy to dig them out but the most annoying thing about a new arena will be the terrible bland corporate name. Yes the Saddledome has name sponsorship but it's still the Saddledome.
New building isn't going to have a new with the corporate name in front, it's going to be some terribly bland "Place/Arena/Center" etc etc.
Olympic Saddledome, Canadian Airlines, Pengrowth, Scotiabank. the Dome was the Dome.
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There's something to be said for an iconic name. I think the key here is staying away from the more boring suffixes - "Place", "Center", "Arena", etc that every arena seems to get eventually - it's got to be a bit more unique, think "Gardens", "Coliseum", or "Forum". Something that sounds good alone after "the".
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07-22-2019, 08:11 PM
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#312
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by InglewoodFan
Has anyone seen anything on what the Stampede's involvement is? The land is "Stampede land" which the city expropriated for them years ago. Is the city paying the Stampede for the land? Concerned that Stampede is going to make $ for sitting on their butts as far as their promised development of that land.
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From previous news, the Stampede will now get to use the Saddledome Lands for something else.
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07-22-2019, 08:13 PM
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#313
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Fire
Frankly I am surprised on the positive reaction in this thread, I was expecting to come into this thread hearing from 50% of posters saying how bad this deal is for the city. Good to see.
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Everyone is too exhausted to argue thanks to the fighting in the Lucic thread.
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07-22-2019, 08:14 PM
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#314
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by InglewoodFan
Has anyone seen anything on what the Stampede's involvement is? The land is "Stampede land" which the city expropriated for them years ago. Is the city paying the Stampede for the land? Concerned that Stampede is going to make $ for sitting on their butts as far as their promised development of that land.
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My understanding is that the Stampede is basically trading the Event Center land for the land that the Saddledome is built on
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07-22-2019, 08:14 PM
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#315
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by RM14
From previous news, the Stampede will now get to use the Saddledome Lands for something else.
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World's biggest mini doughnut stand?
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07-22-2019, 08:15 PM
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#316
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Double post
Last edited by Funkhouser; 07-22-2019 at 08:17 PM.
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07-22-2019, 08:18 PM
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#317
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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All Star game 2026, Flames host the Draft 2027?
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07-22-2019, 08:21 PM
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#318
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by MRCboicgy
World's biggest mini doughnut stand?
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Yes please. Right beside a new amphitheatre to replace the coke stage.
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07-22-2019, 08:22 PM
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#319
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First Line Centre
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$400M direct benefits to the city (estimated) over 35 years, so $11M/year
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07-22-2019, 08:23 PM
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#320
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Does anyone have a link to any parking information?
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